Author Topic: Adding length  (Read 7534 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Weylin

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,296
Re: Adding length
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2014, 08:28:41 pm »
that looks trustworthy to me, Bubby. Clearly the key is drastically extending the glue surface area. Looks pretty cool too.  8)

Offline PEARL DRUMS

  • Member
  • Posts: 14,079
  • }}}--CK-->
Re: Adding length
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2014, 08:53:01 pm »
Here are a few in varying distances from the tip.
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize we cannot eat money.

Offline PatM

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,737
Re: Adding length
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2014, 09:08:43 pm »
While siyahs are usually v-spliced in a simple lap splice  like the  above overlays  will support a considerable extension if glued and wrapped.
 All the cheap horsebows out there have a lap  splice for the siyah.
 Tim Baker actually claims that extensions will hold up if not wrapped. There is even a picture in one of the  TBB showing this.

Offline bubby

  • Member
  • Posts: 11,054
Re: Adding length
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2014, 12:31:09 am »
Thanks weylin, it's very trustworthy, I've run them several more inches with no problems
failure is an option, everyone fails, it's how you handle it that matters.
The few the proud the 27🏹

Offline Pat B.

  • Member
  • Posts: 62
Re: Adding length
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2014, 10:09:31 am »
Thanks for the pictures, they all look great and provide inspiration !
Friends are the family we choose

Offline Del the cat

  • Member
  • Posts: 8,322
    • Derek Hutchison Native Wood Self Bows
Re: Adding length
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2014, 10:14:01 am »
The extended stave via siyah is the best trick you can do. I make them all the time. I remember when we walked Bert through the splicing process with the above bow.
 Here's a couple of four foot Elm staves extended out a foot or so.
 
Oh, man, they are pretty bows, I like the subtlety... not over done. Clean lines.
Splicing on a couple of extra inches is no prob when done like that...
Del
Health warning, these posts may contain traces of nut.

Offline autologus

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,092
Re: Adding length
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2014, 11:07:21 am »
This bow has been an inspiration for me for a long time. Whenever I come across a suitable stave, I will try something similar.




It allows you to splice in tips, which can result in a bow of unlimited length.

Those look like they are spliced into quarter/rift sawn Ash is that correct?

Grady
Proud Hillbilly from Arkansas.

Offline nakedfeet

  • Member
  • Posts: 135
    • AJD Archery & Outdoors
Re: Adding length
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2014, 02:03:18 pm »
This thread is a great example of people originally urging caution, and to follow "conventional wisdom" -- and then several examples popping up that show that the conventional wisdom doesn't necessarily capture the whole picture.

It's so awesome to me that even though this craft is thousands of years old, we're still finding out new things about it.

(For what it's worth, when I first read it my first thought was spliced siyahs as well. And those have been around for a long time. So in this case it's just kind of re-discovering what the ancients already knew.)

Offline Pappy

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 32,137
  • if you have to ask you wouldn't understand ,Tenn.
Re: Adding length
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2014, 09:22:14 am »
Nice tips,It has never been the issue of the string breaking them off to me,Like has been said not that much pressure on them anyway,it is hitting them on something when they are passed the bow wood that will cause the problem,the leverage you get when they are beyond is high and since I am pretty rough on stuff I don't go passed the bow wood with my tips. But they sure are pretty I will admit.  ;) :) :)
  Pappy
Clarksville,Tennessee
TwinOaks Bowhunters
Life is Good

Offline bubbles

  • Member
  • Posts: 932
  • PM110769
Re: Adding length
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2014, 10:18:04 am »
If done poorly, they can be dangerous I guess?  But, so can a regular bow.  Just make sure to get a good mating and good glue lines. 

Offline Blaflair2

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,042
Re: Adding length
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2014, 11:33:06 am »
Bubby,When strung where does the string ride in relation to the end of the stave, in my mind as long as the downward force is still pretty centered over where the stave ends it'd work. Nice tips too!!
Nothing ventured nothing gained