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Offline Pat B.

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Adding length
« on: June 30, 2014, 04:29:04 pm »
The osage shorty thread made me wonder -------------

If you use glued on tip overlays of horn or perhaps another hard wood could you add a bit of length to nock to nock length by cutting your string grooves a bit beyond the osage stave?  In other words, cutting your string grooves out on the overlays rather than in the stave itself.. Wonder if they'd hang on and if so would you still use the super glue as the adhesive of choice ? Maybe a 1/2'' on either end ??
Not worth the risk ?
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Offline BOWMAN53

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2014, 04:32:48 pm »
id think youd wanna go with the best wood glue you can get, with perfect gluelines.
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Offline BOWMAN53

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2014, 04:34:00 pm »
not something id wanna shoot though, if that overlay pops off its coming straight for your face.
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Offline Weylin

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2014, 04:34:13 pm »
I'd vote for not worth the risk.
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Offline BOWMAN53

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2014, 04:34:56 pm »
Quote from: Weylin on June 30, 2014, 04:34:13 pm
I'd vote for not worth the risk.


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Offline huisme

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2014, 04:36:15 pm »
I wouldn't even string it up if the bow was over twenty pounds ???
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2014, 04:36:58 pm »
That's how I do most of mine, have a peek at yours. I cut the grooves in right where the core ends. It allows me to make a 66" ntn bow with a 66" stave. Ive had ONE overlay issue ever. I used the wrong wood and it exploded, no other failures of any type.
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Offline Pat B.

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2014, 04:52:50 pm »
But don't go beyond what you've described, Chris ?
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2014, 04:57:32 pm »
I don't suggest cutting the groove in beyond the end of the bow, no.  Consider the forces at work with an overlay and it will make more sense as to why you can get away with it. Unless its too short and pulled too far the string is never pulling on a 90, its always pulling down and in on a healthy bow.
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Offline bubby

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 05:02:31 pm »
I do it quite a bit, altogether usually starts out about flush with the ends, if you make the overlays 6" long you'll have no problems, but I glue those longer overlays on with tb3 I can post a few pic,s when I get home
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Offline Badger

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2014, 05:14:29 pm »
  I go along with Pearly, just not that much leverage involved even at 1/4" past the stave. Doing them just past flush I don't consider much of an issue at all.
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Offline Pat B.

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2014, 05:42:30 pm »
I would think that even if the glue joint on an overlay was only 1 1/2" that you could get away with string grooves a bit beyond flush...

Thanks for the input..

And I'd like to see any pix if possible ---- just to see what is being done..

I've seen Chris's work up close and personal and it is impecable!
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Offline DarkSoul

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2014, 06:52:10 pm »
This bow has been an inspiration for me for a long time. Whenever I come across a suitable stave, I will try something similar.




It allows you to splice in tips, which can result in a bow of unlimited length.
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Offline PatM

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2014, 06:56:39 pm »
The extended stave via siyah is the best trick you can do. I make them all the time. I remember when we walked Bert through the splicing process with the above bow.
 Here's a couple of four foot Elm staves extended out a foot or so.
 
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Offline bubby

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Re: Adding length
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2014, 08:21:45 pm »

is this what you were thinking, I've gone several inches past with no problems, this was just an easy pic to find
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