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Offline RedBear1313

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2014, 09:27:49 pm »
the rings are fairly thin, and yes, it is some great looking osage which is exactly why I didn't want to back it unless it's absolutely neccesary
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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2014, 09:55:59 pm »
wow!

the steaming took out nearly the complete dent! you can barely tell it was there!

I'm guessing I need to wait a while so it can dry out now?

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Offline dwardo

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2014, 07:11:53 am »
Now thats impressive.

Offline Del the cat

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2014, 11:58:47 am »
Damn, I'm too late >:(... I was going to say the hot spoon trick :).
Heat a spoon in boilng water, and then rub the back of the spoon over the dent. Keep re-heating the spoon in the boiling water. It works a treat on Yew...
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Offline Badly Bent

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2014, 10:37:40 pm »
That worked out real nice, glad I saw this. I'll have to file this little trick away for future use.
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Offline Buckeye Guy

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2014, 03:37:45 pm »
With little dents if you just spit on them they disappear in a couple of minutes if not put a little heat on it and they raise right up !
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Offline RedBear1313

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2014, 08:51:36 pm »
That worked out real nice, glad I saw this. I'll have to file this little trick away for future use.

which method did you use?
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Offline huisme

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2014, 09:31:44 pm »
You actually need to wait for it to rehydrate, it's already dried out because you steamed it ;) It heats the wood to the point that moisture evaporates, so no new moisture is going to enter and some moisture is going to leave, so to say.
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Offline PatM

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2014, 09:55:11 pm »
You actually need to wait for it to rehydrate, it's already dried out because you steamed it ;) It heats the wood to the point that moisture evaporates, so no new moisture is going to enter and some moisture is going to leave, so to say.
   I don't believe this to be literally true. Steamed wood is never dry when it comes out of the steaming chamber.

Offline huisme

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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2014, 12:18:22 am »
You actually need to wait for it to rehydrate, it's already dried out because you steamed it ;) It heats the wood to the point that moisture evaporates, so no new moisture is going to enter and some moisture is going to leave, so to say.
   I don't believe this to be literally true. Steamed wood is never dry when it comes out of the steaming chamber.

There's definitely moisture on the surface and some in the surface, but I've cut some BL that I steamed just to see if it's true. The wood was bone dry beneath the stuff that had been in direct contact with moisture.
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Offline PatM

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2014, 12:52:09 am »
 I am aware of how  it works but other variables are at work. Steam a recurve in and it needs more than just cooling the wood to set the curve.

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2014, 01:47:03 am »
Well yeah, but that's not from the wood needing to dry out due to being steamed. I've actually never looked into exactly why that is, but I've checked: steamed wood is definitely overly dry after steaming. Takes set pretty bad if you don't let it take in moisture in my experience.

I wonder how everything looks if you boil ???
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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2014, 03:47:23 am »
Just the same as steam.  >:D

Offline PatM

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2014, 10:06:04 am »
No lol. You need to bust out a moisture meter to prove that the wood is drier. Pressure also drives stuff INTO wood.
 You can take a typical bow wood and put one end in water and blow bubbles through a 20 foot length. All those tubules have water driven into them when streaming or boiling.
 Wood has to dry out after any water treatment.
 You don't make veggies crispy and dry by steaming them , do you?

Offline Buckeye Guy

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Re: Indentation on Back
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2014, 12:26:49 pm »
The truth is both of you are correct
Steam can either dry wood or increase its moister
but you are getting kinda scientific for building Primitive bows and either way its good to let it set so stop fussing and get to building !
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