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Offline Badger

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Flight bow in progress
« on: June 18, 2014, 03:49:28 pm »
  Here is a bow I am just getting started on, I have it cleaned up and very roughly floor tillered, I just glued on some ipe nocks. The bow is 54" nock to nock, BBO, target weight 50#@24".  I copied Marks designs to a large extent with a few touches of my own.  At present the bow weighs 19 oz, my projected finished weight is 17 oz. If I go to far below that and start to show signs of stress I will drop the bow to 35#.

    Starting with 3 3/4 iches of reflex I don't expect it to creep up as I tiller because I did not glue it into perry reflex. I pretty much formed the wood then wrapped it with maybe 2" of relex induced under light pressure. These have a higher than normal failure rate so I will post as I go and hope it don't break. Target speed is a minimum 245 fps with 200 grain arrow, otherwise just another practice bow.
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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2014, 05:22:16 pm »
  Progress, I have it out to 50#@15" on the long string, will continue until I get to 50#@20" then brace the bow. About 1/4" less reflex.

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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2014, 05:29:36 pm »
Looking fine so far Steve. Could be a screama'!
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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2014, 06:04:07 pm »
  Here we are at 17" and 50#. Left limb bending a little too much mid and right limb a bit stiff, I should have that evened up pretty good by the time I hit 20" then I will brace. Most important thing I pay attention to on a flight bow is the condition of the wood. Makes a huge difference in the end product. I try not to loose any weight due to compression, regardless of visible set.

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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2014, 06:37:41 pm »
V Interesting...
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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2014, 07:14:35 pm »
Here it is at 50#@20" on the long string and me bracing the bow.

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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2014, 07:18:09 pm »
    Thats it for today, scary part tomorrow. So far only lost 1/4" of starting reflex. I have 4" to go.

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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2014, 08:34:37 pm »
Very nice Steve.  Flight bows are such fun to make  ::)
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2014, 08:35:51 pm »
Those statics look too cool Steve.
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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2014, 09:09:31 pm »
That's awesome steve! Thank you for sharing some of your work, you are an inspiration :)
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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2014, 09:21:04 pm »
Sweet...I love tillering those kinda designs...they give me a boner!!! I find first brace is always fun with those...I find it best to brace with no more than ten pounds left,and you have to have it at least ~4" for a first brace otherwise if too much weight left and too low of a brace and they come flipping back on ya...lol  :laugh: getting your bend as close to perfect before brace is very critical with those...looking good from here ;) ....I got lams all prepped out ready for a short r/d static,but haven't glued it up yet...been busy...lil rocket launchers they are

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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2014, 09:26:38 pm »
   The thing I was a little unsure about was how the mass figure would factor in for a deflexed bow. I build very few deflexed bows. I know they make for lower mass but not sure how much. I am at 17.9 right now, no more than 1/2 oz left in tillering and about 1.5 oz comming out of handle. I will finish at about 16 oz, 1 oz below projected. I kind of hate doing buildalongs because of the risk of breaking but thats real life and how it goes sometimes.

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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2014, 09:42:14 pm »
What's your front profile widths if ya care to share? Your on the edge for sure,but from what I can see I think you still have enough wood for your intended specs....the last one I did was 62" ntn n 57@27" n only weighed 18 or 19 ounces finished...and it held its shape great and the wood was still very healthy

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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2014, 09:59:10 pm »
54" is pretty short but that's what you need for flight
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Re: Flight bow in progress
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2014, 10:01:27 pm »
    1 1/4 at the fade and down about 1/2 the limb it start to taper