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Fire killed Osage?
« on: May 21, 2014, 09:32:32 pm »
 Anyone ever tried osage that was killed by fire? My grandma's house burned down in april of this year and there is a hedgerow about 20 yards from the house,and ten or twelve osage trees got scorched pretty good and now show no signs of life. I am going to cut them when i get time and just wondered if it would still make bows or should i just chunk it into firewood.
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Re: Fire killed Osage?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 09:54:21 pm »
Sorry to hear about grandmas Steve. I know first hand what that's like. Don't know about the wood, but i guess there's only one way to find out. ;)

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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 10:10:34 pm »
Al Herrin wrote an article that specifically mentioned burning the tree before even cutting it down. A small controlled fire was built around the base of the tree and tended for an unspecified length of time.
 Many writers have mentioned that the Indians would highly regard a tree killed by fire as prime bow material and the method described by Herrin seems to be their way of making it happen rather than chancing on a fire killed tree.
 You shouldn't have a problem unless the wood is deeply charred.

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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 10:14:23 pm »
I would go for it.  We use heat to bend osage and heat to toast the belly of the limbs.  Scrape away the scorched wood and give it a go.
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 10:37:26 pm »
Thanks for the reply's. I guess i will try to save all thats not scorched too deep and see how it works out. Some are charred to 8 to 10 feet above the ground and some are only charred for 2 to 3 feet. Won't  know how deep untill i get to cutting. Just didnt know if getting live wood that hot  would damage it beyond being usable. The fire happened just as our trees were starting to bud out. I was actually surprised that none of the damaged trees put out any leaves.
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Re: Fire killed Osage?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2014, 09:50:22 am »
Al Herrin wrote an article that specifically mentioned burning the tree before even cutting it down. A small controlled fire was built around the base of the tree and tended for an unspecified length of time.
 Many writers have mentioned that the Indians would highly regard a tree killed by fire as prime bow material and the method described by Herrin seems to be their way of making it happen rather than chancing on a fire killed tree.
 You shouldn't have a problem unless the wood is deeply charred.

I think Al was talking about a method of cutting down a tree using a fire
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2014, 10:14:18 am »
 That may have been a secondary reason but he was very specific about the fire changing the wood properties in a positive way.
 Keep in mind that steel axes would have long since been introduced so the char and chop method wouldn't have been really necessary for a bow stave sized tree.

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2014, 12:13:51 pm »
I am sorry to hear about your grandmothers home.   I am curious to learn what you find in the really chared ones. 
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