Tiller Help! uploaded pics, full draw?

[lebhuntfish]

Here is a pic of the tips. If that helps.

 

[PatM]

How straight are they when unstrung and viewed from the end like the pic on the tiller?

[blackhawk]

Looking at your previous post of this bow I can see you just need to heat correct your levers over..both of them are leaning the same way...easy peasy diagnosis man,and I've done and had to do it many times...and even in the first pic you shown in this thread you can see its in the levers and not in the limbs..the limbs appear to be bending pretty much mostly straight down and aren't twisting...its in your levers...good thing you have no sinew there,and they'll heat correct like butter if done right and won't uncurl...don't go trying to correct that by yanking on that cold cus it won't work plain n simple.
.but if you wanna listen to someone who's never made an osage bow ,then be my guest 

[PatM]

 I'd need to see the WHOLE length of the bow before I would say that but your assessment based on a closer look at the tiller pic does look more likely. Especially in light of what the stave looked like originally.
 I  did NOT say to try to straighten just the tips by brute force.
 Your statement about my production of Osage bows is a bit off. Not by much though.
 

[lebhuntfish]

Ok guy's I appreciate all of the advice and the opinions. But I got it lined up and uhey are pretty close to straight at least enough that they are tracking nicely when they have some tension on them. With this stave I did have some propeller that I fixed a while back. One of the tips had a knot in the middle of the bend that I had to work around so for the first bow I worked on its finally coming along. I owe a lot to you all for all of your advise.

But here is the end result of my tip alignment. I had to do a combination of heat straightening and wood removal to get them lined up.

I also worked on the tiller for a while afterwards. What do you think of the tiller? I have the tips moving about 20 inches or so with a long string.  And I think it's bending pretty good, if you don't see any problems, should I brace it now? Thanks for all of your help again, Patrick!

Tip alignment
 

No set at all so far, it's pulling 34lbs at what I would consider brace height.
 

 

[Danzn Bar]

Brace that sucker, it looks pretty good to me.
DBar

[PatM]

Brace it. Looks like your lever/recurves are low enough angle to basically be non-contact at brace.  You might want to stick a couple of string bridges on just before the elbow  of your curves.
 Take a look at Blackhawk's bow on the Mollie thread to get an idea of what they should look like on a bow with lower angled levers.

[lebhuntfish]

Thanks PatM, I will check that out if I can find it. Is it a necessary  thing to do, or does it just help? 

 Danzn Bar, thanks man I was kinda thinking the same thing.

I have been analyzing this picture, I wonder if you guy's think the outer third of the right limb needs a little more bend to it?

[PatM]

It is good for a bow that has stability issues and it is also good for stopping the string in a sharper fashion as it strikes the bridges.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,38078.0.html

[lebhuntfish]

Cool, thanks Pat! I look into it!

[mwosborn]

Looking good - I agree - time to brace it.

[lebhuntfish]

Thanks mwosborn, I'll make that my project for tomorrow evening!

[lebhuntfish]

Well I got it braced, and it didn't look too bad, I done some minor adjustments and worked on the tiller for about an hour or so. I think I know what is wrong with it but not sure. So here it is unstrung and pulling 22 inches. My scale shot the wad but, I would guess it's about 45lbs at 22inches. The brace could be about an inch higher too.  What do you guys think? Thanks, Patrick.

 

 

[lesken2011]

The right limb looks a tad stiff just outside the fade.

[dwardo]

Little flat spot on the left limb about two fist widths from the fade?