The Showdown

[bubby]

better yet pat, who wants to draw a 130# static recurve

[PatM]

 How different would it be from a longbow of the same weight?

[mullet]

Steve, How about you start another thread and I'll get rid of this one since the first 10 or 12 pages is mostly pissing and moaning? I'd like to see someone build a 130# static or flat bow, also.

[Marc St Louis]

Can you imagine the string tension of a 130# static recurve?  Yuk.  It's desire to shear off any tip overlays you put on would be extremely high.

The guy that asked me to build him one wanted it pulling to 32".  I'm pretty sure that making it in the style of the last static I posted here I could get away with it being 65" long and still keep some decent reflex once tillered out.

[Badger]

Steve, How about you start another thread and I'll get rid of this one since the first 10 or 12 pages is mostly pissing and moaning? I'd like to see someone build a 130# static or flat bow, also.

  I would not attempt a 130# static. I imagine it could be done but I wouldn't want any part of it. I have made plenty of 100# flatbows when playing around with boards, most of them closer to 6 ft. I might have a use for 100# static as someone could shoot it at the flights, 130# I don't know anyone attending that can draw that much.

[WillS]

Joe Gibbs made a 177# flat bow recently.  Made from wenge and pau amarello.  Shot a heavy warbow arrow over 300 yards.  There's a vid on Facebook but you need to be part of a certain group to see it.  Very impressive though.

[Badger]

Joe Gibbs made a 177# flat bow recently.  Made from wenge and pau amarello.  Shot a heavy warbow arrow over 300 yards.  There's a vid on Facebook but you need to be part of a certain group to see it.  Very impressive though.

  I would like to see that video.

[WillS]

I'm honestly not sure how I could show it, unless you're friends on Facebook with the guy who posted it.  It's set to private.  Joe also made a Turkish bow at 170# which he shot the same day.  The guy is a monster, both in shooting and building these bows. 

One thing I don't know is whether he used any fibreglass on the 177# flat bow.  I'll try and at least get a screenshot of it at full draw and post that in here as soon as I can.  Apologies for sparking any interest and not being able to offer more information!

[Marc St Louis]

Yes that would be interesting to see

[james parker]

I would really like to see the 170# Turkish bow,, especially if it is a true horn and sinew composite.....

[PatM]

I have a piece of Elm that I will strive to make the heaviest static that it has in it. We'll see.
 Adam Karpowicz makes composite bows pulling up to something like 160 pounds so the inserted sliver of horn or bone at the tips will solve the potential tip issue.

[soy]

better yet pat, who wants to draw a 130# static recurve

Where is ff101 when u need him lol

[WillS]

Hopefully this won't be too disappointing, but as I'm unable to share the private video this is all I can provide!



Kurgan bow, 170@32.  Shot an EWBS standard arrow (800gr/52g) over 300 yards.



Wenge/pau amarello core flat bow, 177@32 shot a standard arrow again somewhere near 300 yards.  I wasn't there when Joe was shooting these, they just appeared on Facebook, so I have very little info unfortunately.

[toomanyknots]

That guy is a hell of a bowyer. (also, a freaking monster! )

[Badger]

  Funny how the grains per pound rule seems to follow even up into the heavier weights. A 50# bow will shoot a 250 grain arrow a bit over 300 yards, a 100# bow will shoot a 500 grain arrow a bit over 300 yards. It makes my back hurt just watching draw that bow.