Cool Stuff there Zuma. Is that bush honeysuckle or vine? I've used yucca and milkweed, but have found a lot of dog bane along the road lately, gonna go back this summer and get some. Only problem w/ that stuff is I have to keep my dog from drinking out of it as it rets. I hear it will kill her dead if she drinks the water. All Helena's cordage has been retted hasn't it? Cool Stuff!! dp