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Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« on: February 27, 2014, 04:37:43 pm »
Just wondering is 200 pulls to full draw on the tree would equal 200 shots at full draw ( or any amount of pulls) I've made a few bows for friends, and I'm a 26" drawing lefty, so it was actually somewhat uncomfortable to take 200 shots with a 29" draw righty bow.  Now that I have a tillering tree pulley set up, I'm wondering if I can substitute some of those shots with some tillering tree pulls. 

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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2014, 04:53:07 pm »
You can still shoot right with a righty bow.  Just be shooting of the hand.  Shooting in a bow and using a tiiler tree are totally different.  Pull and release stresses the limbs, tips, handle area and any parts that are glued on..   If anything fails it would be from shooting I suspect.
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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2014, 05:28:20 pm »
NO, shoot it in left handed, that's what I do  ;), bub
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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2014, 05:34:47 pm »
Nope. The act of shooting the bow is more harsh than just pulling on it. Watch some slow motion videos on YouTube and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2014, 05:43:25 pm »
Nope. The act of shooting the bow is more harsh than just pulling on it. Watch some slow motion videos on YouTube and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Yep just drawing it isn't like shooting it
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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2014, 07:18:38 pm »
That's what I figured, darn it.   I do some shooting on righty bows left handed, but I still don't like changing my draw - I use a clicker to maker sure I'm at the right draw length.    Well, guess I'll just have to deal with it.

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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2014, 11:13:35 pm »
As I build a bow I constantly exercise after wood removal. I sweat a bow once I get to full brace from anywhere from 30 minutes to 4 or 5 hours. By doing this I have almost eliminated shooting in a bow as far as weight loss. There is definitely no substitute to actually shooting a bow but a bow can be shot in somewhat on the tiller tree IMO.
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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2014, 12:15:31 am »
Cool Pat, I do the same. I'm giving about 20 to 30 pulls between wood removals and let the bow sweat at brace for a couple hours when I'm within a couple of  inches of full draw.   

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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2014, 12:21:54 am »
I draw 26" and have made bows drawing 30". I tiller the bow out to an inch or so over the desired draw length and weight and shoot it at my draw. I'll let the recipient know that I didn't get it shot in to their draw and ask that they shoot it in from 26" on out to their normal draw.
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2014, 01:05:53 am »
I don't have a pulley setup, I use the tiller tree out to about 20" - 22" the rest of my getting to full draw is shooting it in
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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2014, 05:30:42 am »
But you will get a sweet workout drawing your bowflex 200X in one session

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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2014, 10:31:54 am »
 Ha, I did get a sweet workout, and then a rotator cuff injury! :).   

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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2014, 04:18:01 pm »
This is partly why I learned to shoot right handed too.  This, and so that I could shoot some of my buddies' cool bows.   ;)

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Re: Can the tiller tree substitute for shooting in?
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2014, 04:40:10 pm »
If a bow is inclined to develop crysals or lift a splinter exercising on a tiller tree will reveal the problem as well as shooting. And it is a lot safer way to do it.
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