Author Topic: need help losin weight  (Read 3856 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Stixnstones

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,695
need help losin weight
« on: February 14, 2014, 12:43:00 pm »
osage , 65# @ 26" shootin for 50 - 55 @ 28, should i start sanding n shootin in or what , frustrated :-\
DevilsBeachSelfbows

Offline PEARL DRUMS

  • Member
  • Posts: 14,079
  • }}}--CK-->
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2014, 12:48:46 pm »
Keep tillering it down?
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize we cannot eat money.

Offline chamookman

  • Member
  • Posts: 3,027
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2014, 12:50:06 pm »
To start with, You have already over-drawn the bow by pulling it past the intended draw weight. I would scrape the limbs a bit - get it on the wall and not draw it past 55lbs as You continue to tiller. All is not lost, just go SLOWLY now - best of luck, Bob.
"May the Gods give Us the strength to draw the string to the cheek, the arrow to the barb and loose the flying shaft, so long as life may last." Saxon Pope - 1923.

Offline hunterbob

  • Member
  • Posts: 890
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2014, 12:51:29 pm »
Don't we all. Lol.
I would keep scraping and get it closer to your target weight. Never pull past 50 or 55

Offline wizardgoat

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,397
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2014, 12:56:09 pm »
should for sure be sanded down till theres no more tool marks, then check your tiller again.
I'd remove only 20-30 scrapes at a time, in select spots. go REAL slow. Pull your bow on the tiller
to 55 pounds only, your not gaining anything by pulling it past your desired end draw weight.
Every scraping session you should see your draw length dropping by half inch or so.
when you get to 26" or 27", stop tillering and give all a good sanding. it may need a few more scrapes.
I lost 3 pounds on my last bow from sanding in the end, i should of removed all tools marks a little earlier.
good luck!

Offline hunterbob

  • Member
  • Posts: 890
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2014, 01:08:06 pm »
I try not to have hardly any tool marks from around sixty down to 50 pounds . After every wood removal I sand and get it pretty close to a completed bow . Then when you are done you can use one small piece of 80 grit and sand easy and then use 220 . Then 320 and 500 grit you can keep going finer if you want. But my final sanding might take me around 15 to 20 minutes.

Offline PAHunter

  • Member
  • Posts: 677
  • "If your not having fun, what's the point?" - Khan
    • Victory Before Combat (My YouTube Page)
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2014, 01:16:37 pm »
Just wanted to note that 10#s is a LOT of sanding.   :o  Might want to scrape or even rasp that bad boy down a bit and do the last few pounds sanding.  Good luck!
Thanks,
Rob - Wexford, PA

"Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe". - Abe Lincoln

Offline Stixnstones

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,695
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2014, 01:21:23 pm »
thanx guys thats what i forgot , dont pull past intended weight , seems like i always forget a step gonna try n post this bow when wife gets home shes got the good camera, agin thanx for the help,ur the best
DevilsBeachSelfbows

Offline Pat B

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 37,633
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2014, 01:31:24 pm »
If your tiller is good make long scrapes on each limb to reduce weight without changing tiller. give each limb 10 to 20 scrapes, put it on the tiller tree and exercise the limbs well then check the weight again. Do this until you get to where you want to be weight wise. Keep checking the tiller and adjust accordingly.
 You can also brace the bow and let it sit braced for a couple of hours. This will help it register the weight reduction like exercising does.
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline Stixnstones

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,695
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2014, 02:25:23 pm »
was thinkin aboot keepin it strung but worried aboot string follow so far there is none
DevilsBeachSelfbows

Offline sweeney3

  • Member
  • Posts: 277
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2014, 02:33:33 pm »
Keeping it strung won't reduce the draw weight at your target length, but it will drastically reduce the cast per pound of draw weight.  In other words, you'll still be pulling near 65 pounds, but getting 30-40 pounds of cast out of it.  Keep tillering and don't pull it past your target weight any more.  You probably already have some set, but some is okay.  Just don't blow it up or cause too much. 

Offline bubby

  • Member
  • Posts: 11,054
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2014, 03:48:13 pm »
I leave my bows strung while i'm scraping and working tiller, it's harder on it unstringing and stringing over and over imho, bub
failure is an option, everyone fails, it's how you handle it that matters.
The few the proud the 27🏹

Offline DarkSoul

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,315
    • Orion Bows
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2014, 05:17:23 pm »
Keeping it strung won't reduce the draw weight at your target length, but it will drastically reduce the cast per pound of draw weight.  In other words, you'll still be pulling near 65 pounds, but getting 30-40 pounds of cast out of it.  (...)
I'm really interested where you've read this phrase. To me, it sounds as absolute rubbish. It's simply not true that a bow will loose a lot of performance if left strung for a period of several hours. But if it were the case, where does the performance loss come from if the draw weight remains the same? During an archery competition, we leave our bows strung for several hours in a row, right? Yet, do we see any major loss in performance? No, we don't. It is of course not good to leave a wooden bow strung for a day or even longer, as that will induce more set (and therefore lower the draw weight). This will rob performance, but never to the extend of losing 25 to 35 pounds.
"Sonuit contento nervus ab arcu."
Ovid, Metamorphoses VI-286

Offline PatM

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,737
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2014, 05:44:48 pm »
Even the whole "don't draw it past your intended draw weight" is a bit blown out of proportion. If the bow clearly shows it's not overstrained at the heavier weight then it will be fine.
 

Offline Pat B

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 37,633
Re: need help losin weight
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2014, 06:07:25 pm »
I always "sweat" my bows while I'm tillering once I realize everything is even. I start at first brace and leave it strung for about an hour. As the tillering progresses the sweat time lengthens. By the time I have the tillering done and the bow shot in I want to be able to leave my bow strung for a few hours at lease while hunting or shooting 3D without any loss of performance. By doing this and exercising well after every wood removal I rarely loose any weight shooting in the bow.
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC