Experimental Primitive Field Points

[PrimitiveTim]

I'm trying a weird method of attaching wood field points to my cane shafts.  Basically I just whittle it out so the point doesn't quite fit into the shaft.  Then I slice up to get those slivers out.  I slide the point in the shaft and sinew wrap over all of it.  Only thing I'm concerned about is the strength of the narrow part.  I think if it hits at a weird angle it may just snap.  But that's what these experiment are for!

This picture basically shows the progression of the process.

[JW_Halverson]

Huh, well that is simply straight forward. 

Now post pics of them after a few shots!  I am curious to see how they hold up!

[PrimitiveTim]

I'm going stump shooting tomorrow so I'll be sure to update this thread with how they held up.  Also going to put some heat on the wood as it is still green and I figure a little heat will make it harder.

[bowtarist]

I think you might wrap them on a bit more. Try to get the tapper as far into the shaft as possible. I'd only shoot rotten stumps to start with.  dp

[mullet]

Yep, a lot more sinew. I'd build up the weak area with sinew.

[PEARL DRUMS]

That point wood will get brittle as it dries more. Im guessing you get one shot each Tim. Good thought all the same, keep thinking.

[Buckeye Guy]

Tim
Why not splice the same as for a flint tip ?
Guy

[lostarrow]

That point wood will get brittle as it dries more. Im guessing you get one shot each Tim. Good thought all the same, keep thinking.

+1 . Bone and antler work quite well.............. the bone is quick and easy and cheap. Just did one on an experimental Salt cedar shaft.  The first is deer legbone (just rough shaped a spliter with a couple of notches . very crude and quick 5min. to shape 5 to haft with pich glue and art sinew) the last is Antler. Offcut from some project . It's been used extensively as you can see by the dirt. The other has just been into the bag in the shop as I only just made it  shot about40 times into a feedbag stuffed with grocery bags. No problems so far. These are great targets BTW. Practically free, stop the arrows form heavy bows , and withdraw takes two fingers.

[lostarrow]

 Being a carnivore, myself, A good source of bone is off of last nights supper. I prefer rib roasts , as the meat just falls from the bone( and it's yummy!)

[PrimitiveTim]

Aight thanks for the advice guys!  I like the bone idea. 

My tips didn't break first shot but when I hit a tree of course one broke.  Lost the other arrow.  They seem to do fine shooting into dirt but anything more solid is iffy.

[nclonghunter]

Tim, I think if your wood inserts had shoulders like modern screw in metal field points they would be less likely to break.  Even a metal insert designed like yours would bent terribly on non center impacts.

[Ink]

i like your way of thinking and the concept. it has potential, what if you whittled the point down to the size of the shaft then flare it out with the legs your using. Will make it wider at the point where it ties onto the shaft. But might make it stronger than your current design. Just an idea, im probably gonna play around with this concept a little myself. Just for the fun of it. Also what kinda wood are you working with?

[PrimitiveTim]

i like your way of thinking and the concept. it has potential, what if you whittled the point down to the size of the shaft then flare it out with the legs your using. Will make it wider at the point where it ties onto the shaft. But might make it stronger than your current design. Just an idea, im probably gonna play around with this concept a little myself. Just for the fun of it. Also what kinda wood are you working with?

  I'm just using whatever.  I think I used some sweet gum and oak.  I think I might try shortening the tip way down and getting that transition into the shaft a lot cleaner.  It's just hard to whittle out that clean transition.

[Ink]

Try a little Osage, is really stout for a for shaft/point

[PrimitiveTim]

Try a little Osage, is really stout for a for shaft/point

Ya... I'll just go chop one of those down now    I'm afraid I have no access to such a tree.