Thank you all for the responses, I have found out my uncle has a ladder stand, I'll be looking him up to see about trying it out. Maybe I'll be a ground blind kinda guy. I do like the idea of being able to move fast and easy like the climbers tho.
Marks, I hunt / live in logging country, I have access to hundreds of miles of logging rds with clear cuts, timber, jack fir, you name it we have it here for ground.
one more question. I have always been a ground hunter, hunt the wind, how high up a tree should you go to get above the wind, is there a rule of thumb for this? Thanks Ed