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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2013, 02:49:02 pm »
I do the second serving that closes the loops with the string under around 150 lb tension, so it doesn't twist when I do that one. It does twist the string a bit when I do the first servings. I am figuring this is where it is happening. I wish I could think of a jig that could tension the string enough for it not to twist for the first serving, like something with springs or something... Well I guess you guys don't seem to mind, maybe I should just join the club...  ;D
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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2013, 02:56:17 pm »
Does the mere thought of a bowstring out in the garage with that twist keep you up at night, Dr. Sheldon Cooper?  If that is the case, I could show you a photo of a shoebox of unsorted extra bowstrings that is positively a KNOTTED MESS that would leave you unable to eat spaghetti for the rest of your life.
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Offline burchett.donald

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2013, 03:51:59 pm »
  Not trying to beat this post to death...Here's a few pics of what's going on due to the string jig twisting the string on every pass it makes around. It's what happens upon reverse twisting...
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2013, 04:50:32 pm »
Quote from: JW_Halverson on December 29, 2013, 02:56:17 pm
Does the mere thought of a bowstring out in the garage with that twist keep you up at night, Dr. Sheldon Cooper?  If that is the case, I could show you a photo of a shoebox of unsorted extra bowstrings that is positively a KNOTTED MESS that would leave you unable to eat spaghetti for the rest of your life.

Oh the horror!  :)
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 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

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Offline PatM

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2013, 05:13:55 pm »
The reason for that kink has now been explained three times correctly. ;)
« Last Edit: December 29, 2013, 05:24:20 pm by PatM »
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2013, 06:13:56 pm »
Quote from: PatM on December 29, 2013, 05:13:55 pm
The reason for that kink has now been explained three times correctly. ;)

Haha, yeah, you would figure a normal person would be able to figure these things out on their own. You wanna see something real funny, you should watch me try to figure out whats wrong with my van,  :).
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 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

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Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2013, 06:28:37 pm »
Quote from: toomanyknots on December 29, 2013, 06:13:56 pm
Haha, yeah, you would figure a normal person would be able to figure these things out on their own. You wanna see something real funny, you should watch me try to figure out whats wrong with my van,  :).

He told me he has it narrowed down to the 8-track player or else the shag carpeting.
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2013, 08:15:28 pm »
Quote from: JW_Halverson on December 29, 2013, 06:28:37 pm
Quote from: toomanyknots on December 29, 2013, 06:13:56 pm
Haha, yeah, you would figure a normal person would be able to figure these things out on their own. You wanna see something real funny, you should watch me try to figure out whats wrong with my van,  :).

He told me he has it narrowed down to the 8-track player or else the shag carpeting.

 ;D
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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2013, 04:36:48 am »
My advice is ........ it doesn't matter one bit and it's much better for the string to be like that than not in my eyes. Tight serving on these strings is a must.
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Offline adb

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2013, 10:13:19 am »
Quote from: wood_bandit 99 on December 29, 2013, 02:20:13 am
Quote from: toomanyknots on December 29, 2013, 12:49:23 am
Hmm, okee dokey. So I should probably serve the string a bit looser?

Yep ;)

Absolutely NOT! If you serve it 'looser' the serving will migrate all over the place, leaving gaps of bare string in the loop. Obviously, this is not good. 90% of the commercially made endless loop strings I've purchased for recurves have a twist in the loop. It usually disappears under tension when the bow is braced.
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Offline 4dog

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2013, 11:25:30 am »
i thought the idea WAS to have twists...my head is beginning to hurt.  lol
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Offline Eric Garza

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2013, 01:50:42 pm »
I used to make a lot of endless loops, and don't recall every having a problem with twist. I notice that my loops were much smaller than the ones you're making, so that might be why.
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Offline Renacs

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Re: Why do I always get this twist in my loops with endless string strings?
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2013, 07:44:31 pm »
I have maybe 50 E.L.  under my belt and alot are like that. Some have well over a thousand shots and I havent had any problems.
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