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Offline Carson (CMB)

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Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« on: December 09, 2013, 03:33:38 pm »
Here is a blog post I punched out last night.  Busy debarking staves recently and had some personal revelations about how to go about it. It was a big enough improvement in my method of debarking that it moved me to write this article.  Thought I would share here.   Hope you enjoy and I look forward to the feedback from this great community.   :)

The Virtues of a Dull Blade: Stave Debarking

Often times, a bowyer is faced with the task of removing bark from a stave in a manner that leaves the wood underneath pristine and unviolated.  Nicks, dings, scrapes and cuts are not wanted; we are talking about the integrity of a bow here! One simple way to accomplish this is to cut the wood in spring or early summer when the "sap is up". During this time, the vascular cambium is growing fast and is full of water, allowing the bark to be peeled off quite easily.  Leaving a wet and naked beautiful sapwood back, a perfect natural back to the eventual bow. This method of green bark peeling has its benefits and own unique considerations, but as far as removing the green bark, there really isn't anything to it, simply work up the edge and peel; it often comes off in one continuous sheet* but this post is about another method of removing bark, or really another task altogether, removing bark from a dried stave. By dry stave, I mean one that was cut and seasoned with the bark on.  This same bark that once would have peeled off with ease, becomes glued down fast and tight to the stave. There are various reasons why we end up with seasoned bark on staves, and I wont try to explain them here, instead we will stick to explaining how to remove this dried on bark while maintaining the bow's integrity and our own dignity.

Removing bark from a green stave is easy.  Removing bark from a dry stave can be difficult, frustrating and potentially waste you a great deal of time in the form of a bow that eventually breaks.  But don't despair, there is a way to make debarking dry staves easy, enjoyable and re-assuring. As you might have guessed, this is where the dull blade comes in, specifically, the dull drawknife blade.  It is common knowledge in bowyer communities that a dull drawknife is a tool well-suited to the task of drawknifing.  I myself have known that a drawknife is what you use to debark staves for quite some time, but it wasn't until recently that I truly realized the importance of the dullness of the blade. Might sound a bit trivial, but what I have discovered for myself is that there is a great spectrum of "dull", just as there are various levels of sharpness, and for debarking a stave, the dullness makes all the difference.

In the past, I have used scrapers and dull drawknives to debark dry staves, but to no avail a little nick or cut would happen hear and there, usually around the tiny little bumps we call pin knots.  While these don't spell death to your bow by any means, they can add up in the bowyers mind and move him to back the bow with rawhide or overbuild the bow a bit.  Not the end of the world, but an overbuilt bow and a great performing bow are often at odds; and rawhide has its place, but using it as a safety net for any bow that has a few nicks and scrapes isn't very satisfying.

Using a scraper, such as a cabinet scraper works well enough to remove the bark, but it requires lots of force to be applied with the muscles of the wrist and hand. A scraper requires lots of passes to cover the radiused back of a crowned stave as the microplane edge of the scraper cuts through the bark and only pulls up bark where it contacts bark. A scraper does leave tiny nicks in the back, often at the bumps of pin knots. And a scraper requires frequent maintenance to keep a good edge. In short, the scraper is adequate but not ideal. I used the scraper often for the task of debarking even though it was tedious and time consuming because when I used a dull drawknife I simply butchered the back of a bow, destining it to be backed.  My failure was in the misunderstanding of "dull" drawknife.  I thought a dull drawknife was one you had used for a long time and was in need of a good sharpening. That type of draw-knife was too unwieldy; it would work great when used cautiously, but all it took was one bad move, one moment of inattention, and there I was, spitting into the pile of bark shavings cursing at the tool.  So maybe this dull drawknife wasn't dull enough.  I will try an older, much neglected drawknife, one that is pitted and nicked up from laying alongside other metal tools, one that is completely dull.  But this type of drawknife would require that I learn where the nicks are in the blade and avoid them as they would act as little gouges, leaving trails of minor grain tearing. And as dull as this neglected blade was, it was still capable of diving into the lumps and bumps on the back, requiring extra caution to be used.  In short, using a dull drawknife to debark a stave cleanly just wasn't working for me.

Finally, I had the Ah-Ha moment.  I recently took a day to resharpen a number of hand-tools. I was looking over a small collection of drawknives, quite satisfied with the freshly honed blades, when I thought, what if I put as much care into dulling the blade as I do for sharpening the blade.  So I grabbed a coarse stone, and with some excitement at the prospects, took the freshly sharpened drawknife to the stone and made several passes flipping the blade over and back, increasing the angle with successive passes.  Then moved to a finer stone and repeated, steepening the angle ever more. It goes rather quickly to dull a blade compared to sharpening, as you are not forming a burr, rather you are working to avoid forming a burr.  While it required little time, I gave it the attention and thought that I would give to sharpening a blade and was rewarded with an absolutely beautifully dulled blade. Not every woodworkers dream I know, but this was it, I knew it was the ticket to debarking before I ever touched it to a stave. And when I grabbed a stick of plum and started scrapping the bark, it was  everything I could have asked for and so much more.  Suddenly, I had the right tool for the job, and what a great feeling that is!

I have enjoyed debarking several more staves (including the cascara stave pictured below) since dulling this drawknife and was so excited about its effectiveness that I had to write this blog post.  I hope you find the joy of a properly dulled drawknife and making your own big discoveries in bow-making.

Thanks for playing along, Carson Brown at Echo Archery


Debarking a Cascara (Rhamnus purshiana) stave with a finely dulled drawknife.  Note: Cascara bark  (Cascara Segrada:  'Sacred bark', Spanish) is a very effective laxative.  Collecting the inner-bark shavings in catch bucket.




* Don't toss your bark! Fold into the shape of a quiver or strip it into sections and weave a basket, or add some to your home pharmacy!  Inner bark often contains the highest levels of alkaloids in a plant, some of which are harmful and some of which are extremely effective at treating ailments (most are either, depending on the dosage).  Do your research thoroughly before self-medicating with plant medicines.
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Offline Bryce

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Re: Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 03:51:44 pm »
Carson.....you forgot the pics ;)
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Offline IdahoMatt

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Re: Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 04:11:56 pm »
Great post Carson.  How do you think this technique would work on chasing a ring?

Offline dwardo

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Re: Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 05:45:38 pm »
Sounds like I need another draw knife.

Offline TimBo

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Re: Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 07:27:10 pm »
Nice post!  I especially like the term "finely dulled"...

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Re: Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 08:34:54 pm »
I'll give this a try on that yew. Thanks. I think I will be very talented at dulling a blade!
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Re: Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 08:44:44 pm »
When I did mine I took about 4 or 5 swipes with the stone. The key is don't miss anywhere. If you have a little spot you missed you'll take a swipe out of the back. Fortunately it was on a practice piece :-[ :-[

Offline Gordon

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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2013, 09:47:48 pm »
I'll have to give this a try Carson. Thanks!
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2013, 10:36:50 pm »
Here's a link to the post with the pictures: http://echoarchery.blogspot.com/ (if this is somehow against rules mods, please go ahead and delete)

"I hope you find the joy of a properly dulled drawknife" this just sounds so weird to me!  ;D Thanks for the post, very useful info!
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Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2013, 11:20:30 pm »
I'm going to remember to have people read this blog when they are having trouble chasing rings or pulling bark. 

Me?  I'm gonna go hone the blade of my fine Austrian drawknife sharp enough to split Helium atoms!  I have better tool control that way.  Po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to.  That kinda stuff.

But I will always steer people to the dull drawknives when they are new to this work just because it affords a level of safety for wood and flesh!!!  Good writing, Carson.  Clear and concise stuff.  Keep it up!
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Re: Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2013, 07:09:48 am »
Carson, I followed the link posted by TMK and noticed the photo shows the drawknife being used bevel side facing up. Have you found this to be the best procedure? I actually use knives both bevel up /bevel down depending on the task at hand and feel of the wood. I have 4 "different" drawknives but use 2 of those almost exclusively, a 10" curved blade (sharp) for chasing rings using the bevel face down and a 10" straight blade for debarking ( not as sharp) cutting edge slightly rounded and use it both bevel up/down depending on feel.
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Re: Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2013, 08:33:57 am »
I have three or 4 drawknives laid out when I start debarking a stave.

Offline Dean Marlow

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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2013, 08:38:24 am »
My  drawknives will be from very sharp to very dull. The stave will tell me which one it likes the best when removing the bark. No rhyme nor reason why staves work differently when removing the bark. I haven't dulled any drawknives on purpose but will give it a try. Thanks Carson for the info.

Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: Debarking Staves - Tool considerations
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2013, 02:49:07 pm »
Thanks guys! :)
Bryce, looks like tmk got me covered with the link.   ;)

Matt, I havent' tried chasing a ring yet with this dull drawknife, but I think I would probably come to the same conclusion as Dean, that having several drawknifes varying from sharp to dull would be the way to chase an osage ring. 

Just a clarification:

This purposely dull drawknife is mainly for debarking whitewood staves with dry bark, where you want to use the outermost layer of sapwood as the back.  I debark osage with a sharp drawknife, knowing I am going to violate the sapwood, but to no ill effect, because I have my eye on a ring further down for the eventual back. 

Another benefit is that you can actually burnish the back while you are debarking. 

Tim, yes we want these blades "finely dulled"  ;)  Really though that sums up the article. 
Dwardo, you always need another drawknife ;)

Don, yes, it does not take much to roll over a sharp blade.  That is about how many passes I did each side with each of the two stones.  I did it again last night a bit more, that is, I made it a bit duller yet, but that seemed to be too much.

Thanks TMK.  Gordon, Snag, Dean I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it. 

JW, fair enough. I like those austrian drawknives too.  The stubby handles are nice for controlling the blade in tight places. 

Fred, I end up flipping my drawknife over going from bevel up to bevel down quite frequently when I am doing a lot of drawknifing and really in the groove.  I found with this dulled drawknife for debarking, it didn't' seem to matter much, as you arent cutting wood fibers as much as you are ploughing bark off. 






"The bow is the old first lyre,
the mono chord, the initial rune of fine art
The humanities grew out from archery as a flower from a seed
No sooner did the soft, sweet note of the bow-string charm the ear of genius than music was born, and from music came poetry and painting and..." Maurice Thompso