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Offline Danzn Bar

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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2013, 04:01:08 pm »
Those are really tight rings.   Here's a stave I'm planning on working into a sinew backed recurve this winter.

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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2013, 04:41:04 pm »

Here is a tight ringed stave that may become a bow shortly.
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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2013, 05:38:27 pm »
Then there's this one. The rings are so wide that inside the late wood ring is tiny circles of early wood. .  .  . What the heck ?
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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2013, 07:01:04 pm »
Then there's this one. The rings are so wide that inside the late wood ring is tiny circles of early wood. .  .  . What the heck ?


Lol those look the same as my first two bows. I wonder if you can get them wide enough if it is as good as slow growth osage  :o be a cool thing to try   :laugh:
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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2013, 07:49:44 pm »
Then there's this one. The rings are so wide that inside the late wood ring is tiny circles of early wood. .  .  . What the heck ?

You got early wood in your late wood, that is no good!  ;D  Just kidding, I think that is what some people call the lunar rings, as opposed to the annual growth rings.  Whether or not it is related to the moon phase, I guess you get bursts of growth at intervals during the late wood growth.  I have seen that in osage too.

Clint that is some tight ringed osage!  Is it branch?  Did that thing grow in a cave or what? 
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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2013, 08:50:31 pm »
Carson, that was a small dead tree that I cut this spring.  I have been trying to cut some dead standing trees to experiment with.  I have a lot of trees that look ancient but are small diameter.  Maybe I'll cut a few next year and try to chase a micro ring. 
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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2013, 09:29:09 pm »
Actually Carson, that is high elevation osage.  It only grows in the mountains on the east coast of Indiana  ;D
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Offline Poggins

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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2013, 09:59:57 pm »
I'll play along , got two new places to cut osage last spring and they run from wide rings to tight rings , some of them on the same log , center pith of the trees were off center leaving wide rings on one side tight on the other . The first one is down to floor tiller and waiting to season better.






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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2013, 10:00:56 pm »
That looks like some good stuff Poggins
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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2013, 10:04:14 pm »
Actually Carson, that is high elevation osage.  It only grows in the mountains on the east coast of Indiana  ;D

Ohhh yeahh, that is the good stuff right there  ;)
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Offline Danzn Bar

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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2013, 10:13:18 pm »
The stave pic I posted was the first osage I ever cut. It was in the woods, about 7-8" in diameter,  I'm sure it was competing with all the other trees and brush around it. hence the slow growing and tight rings.   The first bows I made were from this tree, two unbacked bows and two bows backed with linen and they all have lifted a splinter.  Three of the four failed to the point of no return.  The only one that has survived was a 25# @ 25" bow I made for my wife.  It splintered under the linen but is still shooting.  Could be because it is 66" long with a 25" long draw.  Another bow I backed with linen from this tree I posted on here a while back with a lot of natural reflex,  It was very snappy with good cast and a smooth draw to it.  Shot it a bunch for a few months, I guess I had 400 arras through her.  I thought it was good until it raised a splinter under the linen, then it was finished.

I'm hoping I've gotten better at tillering and chasing a ring since those bows, I plan to sinew back a recurve from the same tree this winter.  If this doesn't work I think I'm giving up on the tree and will give away the rest of the staves to someone else for a challenge.

 
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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2013, 08:33:44 am »
Them last pictures is just how I like them,it is all about the ratio to me,as long as the early growth is very fine I don't really care about the thinness of the summer growth.I like it pretty fine[maybe not quite that fine Clint] but It seems to make a snapper bow as Pat said. If the rings are fine and the ratio is bad I would go for a lighter weight bow and probably back with rawhide,maybe go a little longer and wider also. :)
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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2013, 10:25:11 am »
Clint,  Thin rings are only desirable if they contain little spring growth. Your stave looks to me like it has mostly early wood. If you do build something with it, I would definetly back it with something, A few courses of sinew would probably make it a snappy little bow!  Take care.
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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2013, 02:07:49 pm »
I've never seen them that thin, Clint.  I love the thin ringed stuff, though.  I'll look forward to seeing the bow, you gotta post that one up and let us know it is this piece.
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Offline Tom Leemans

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Re: Tight ringed osage
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2013, 02:25:18 pm »
I have one that I'm going to back with rawhide. It's a quick selfbow.