I bought a roughed out osage recurve that was already bent, got it shooting with no finish, shot it at Elberton in 2004, met PatB. Then came home and finished it and tied for BOM in the first color BOM issue. It's still my go to bow. I also got a roughed out yew set in take-down handles I finished and traded for Fly rod gear. He was supposed to have sold me his big 12" wide belt sander, gave him some money to hold it and let him finish some bows and he sold it to someone in North Florida, I think BowKinn or David Knight. I was pissed.