Arrrrgh . . . violated osage rings . . . badly

[smoke]

Well . . . no excuses, I had a really nice osage stave but in chasing a ring, I very badly violated a ring before I caught on.   (use proper lighting!)  The trouble is, there isn't enough wood to go another ring down . . . so, if I decide to use this stave, can I do so if I back it with sinew?  I think I can get a good 60 inch bow about 1.5 inches at the fades . . . but would like something in the 60# at 27 range.  Thoughts?  thanks all

[Fred Arnold]

Smoke, you should be ok if backing it depending on what you mean by badly> I severely cut into the back of a bow with my drawknife about 1/2 or more into the ring but stopped in time so as not to cause any tear out. On that bow I used Loctite to glue the piece back down and then sanded it adding some osage dust to build it up and feathered it in smoothly to leave the gouge area slightly raised. Then I rawhide backed it just for insurance.

If you actually removed an entire ring in an area I don't know what to tell you. I've no experience with that yet.

[artcher1]

Where is the violation located? Center, middle of the limb or ends?          Art

[wood_bandit99]

I built a d bow that is 56" long 55# @ 26" and it has 5 different rings on the back. It is violated the whole way and I actually tillered it like that all the way then glued some cotton bed sheets on it. That thing is SOOOOOOOO fast!!!!!!!!!

[JW_Halverson]

You still have a good chance of pulling this one out of the fire.  I can send you a piece of rawhide to patch over the spot, along with a deet back sinew to make transitional wraps at either end of the patch. 

If you put the patch on the blow-out and really go easy and slow on the tillering, you can probably get full draw before doing the wraps. (WARNING: I have never done a short patch on a violated growthring, consequently might be blowing smoke.)

Alternatively, if you want to play a little on the safe side, send me a private message.  I might be able to hook you up with a pair of antelope rawhide strips so you can do both limbs.

-John

[JW_Halverson]

I built a d bow that is 56" long 55# @ 26" and it has 5 different rings on the back. It is violated the whole way and I actually tillered it like that all the way then glued some cotton bed sheets on it. That thing is SOOOOOOOO fast!!!!!!!!!

Who would think that a bow backed with bedsheets would be fast.  I guess that's what you call a "sleeper".

[wood_bandit99]

They were thin. It is so fast tho. I haven't chronograped it yet but that thing SPITS arrows. It was a bow I set up to fail just to test but it was a huge success.

[Joec123able]

They were thin. It is so fast tho. I haven't chronograped it yet but that thing SPITS arrows. It was a bow I set up to fail just to test but it was a huge success.

You should post it on here so we can see it

[Bryce]

As long as the transition is smooth, there shouldn't be a problem. My favorite osage bow has violations. Has over 1000 shots through it.

But if your that insecure about it. Rawhide patch that spot, or the whole bow.

[wood_bandit99]

They were thin. It is so fast tho. I haven't chronograped it yet but that thing SPITS arrows. It was a bow I set up to fail just to test but it was a huge success.

You should post it on here so we can see it

I have been and am busy with hunting and school and the basketball team so I'm planning on getting caught up in the winter. That will be the first one posted I assure you

[blackhawk]

Sure..you can break "rules" in bow making sometimes and get away with it,but when ya do ya run a much higher risk of the bow breaking...and I'd rather give myself the best possible chance at success.... there's a reason why plenty of seasoned veterans and experiences guys preach a clean one non violated ring as the back of your bow....

[PEARL DRUMS]

You say you don't have room to, but Id go down another ring and change the style accordingly. Unless the violation is at the handle or 3-4" from tips, otherwise your osage bow has a short shelf life.

[Pappy]

Same question as artcher1 smoke where is the violation at. Wood_Bandit99 Pinecone yall are lucky guys, never had much luck with ring violations on Osage or anything else except maybe Yew if  it is in the working part of the limb,and also never set one up to fail.
   Pappy

[PEARL DRUMS]

Coming from somebody that has bows older than us, Im buying it pappy.

[wood_bandit99]

Same question as artcher1 smoke where is the violation at. Wood_Bandit99 Pinecone yall are lucky guys, never had much luck with ring violations on Osage or anything else except maybe Yew if  it is in the working part of the limb,and also never set one up to fail.
   Pappy

Haha I couldn't get a growth ring on the bow because of how tiny it was so I just scraped off the polyurethane off the back and went from there. That thing was about .75" deep and 1" wide.