Tree identification

[wood_bandit99]

I have two trees that are all over my land in Oklahoma. I have no clue what they are. Can u tell me what they are and if they are any good? How good is persimmon and oak?

[wood_bandit99]

Tree #2

[SLIMBOB]

Looks like Elm on the first and I would say pecan on the second.

[okie64]

Elm on the first one and some kind of hickory on the second one. Both are good bow wood but I would wait till spring to cut them that way the bark peels off easily. As for persimmon and oak Ive never used either one so I cant help you there. 

[criveraville]

Red Elm (Slippery Elm) on the first pic.

Cipriano

[Pat B]

Elm, hickory, persimmon and oak are all best cut during the growing season so you can peel the bark to expose the back for your bow. Good bows can be made with any of them if cut now but it is a lot more work getting to the back.

[wood_bandit99]

is that what they are? I looked up elm and the first looks like that. The other i have no idea what it is. what kind of hickory do you think it is? how good of bows does oak,persimmon, and elm make? do i need to back them even if i have a single growth ring on them? or belly them with something?

[Josh B]

I haven't used persimmon yet, I just cut some a couple weeks ago though.  All the rest are very tension strong and require no backing.  They do perform well with a belly heat treatment.  Your elm looks pretty twisted, I'd pass on that particular one and see if you can find a smaller straight one to tackle.  Also with elm, it has a nasty habit of twisting and warping when drying.  Once you peel the bark, split em and seal the ends, you'll want to lash em to something to keep em straight.  Even lashing them back together the way were before you split them will help.  After they've dried for a couple months, they are pretty well stabilized and you can unlash them and let the air circulate around them more.   Josh

[Scallorn]

The first one is elm for sure. The second one I'm sure is pecan, elm makes a better bow. As for oak and persimmon,  they will both make a good bow, if you build it right. Oak does better as an overbuilt flat bow. Hope this helps.

[wood_bandit99]

Just what I was looking for! Thank you guys!

[wood_bandit99]

How would I tell the difference between pecan and hickory leaves? I looked up both and they both look close to it.

[SLIMBOB]

For bow making, I'd treat them the same.

[Joec123able]

From what I can tell, pecan is technically a hickory anyways and stores that sell lumber sell pecan as hickory

[wood_bandit99]

Okay. Looks like there is gonna be no trees at my lease! You'll see me with a bunch of oak and elm and some persimmon and pecan/hickory!