Bow101, my wife tells me i have no tact,(she says i jave no couth eitherbut thats another thread), now ya know she is correct,, i really wasnt trying to be a jerk but was actually curious , i have said as much that i have built 2 bows,, and am now building 3and4,, i actually thought you knew something i didnt,, that was it buddy ,, thats all,, reread my first post with that thought in mind youll see.