I'm all for giving him a new start if he wants it. That's what I've been trying to work towards. However, I do believe there should be a sticky put up that more or less outlines this so that these new folks understand that all they have to be is themselves. This old world has done a lot of changing even since I was that age. One thing that hasn't changed is what its like to be that age. I can't remember where I laid my drawknife 5 minutes ago, but i still remember trying to fit in. I'm just trying to make em understand to be themselves and its all good. Josh