Can you put overlays over self nocks?

[Zion]

I made an elm bow recently and it's all tillered out n stuff. I just made a dacron string for it, 16 strand flemish, and since the tips are pretty narrow the nocks are cut in pretty deep. I strung it up a few times, no problems, but i'm kinda nervous that the dacron will split the soft elm. The bow is also 80#. If the bow was longer i would just cut the self nocks off, but it's only 60." Could i flatten the top of the self nock and glue an overlay on? The groove of the original nock would still be there, would that cause any problems? Any help is really appreciated, i don't want to ruin this bow over something stupid.

[turtle]

Yes you can. Works great. Just get a good flat surface for a good glue line.

[lesken2011]

You might pm Adam (adb). I think he added overlays to the hickory backed osage in his build a long. He didn't show that part of the build, but might be able to shed some light on it for you.

[simson]

I made an elm bow recently and it's all tillered out n stuff. I just made a dacron string for it, 16 strand flemish, and since the tips are pretty narrow the nocks are cut in pretty deep. I strung it up a few times, no problems, but i'm kinda nervous that the dacron will split the soft elm. The bow is also 80#. If the bow was longer i would just cut the self nocks off, but it's only 60." Could i flatten the top of the self nock and glue an overlay on? The groove of the original nock would still be there, would that cause any problems? Any help is really appreciated, i don't want to ruin this bow over something stupid.

Zion, I have done that several times. Sometimes the grooves from the selfnocks were still visible, but that's no problem of stability. Come on we wait for the pics .....
Good luck!

[Del the cat]

Yup, no prob, just rasp away to give a flat surface. Or... If you are worried you will remove too much wood, fill the grooves with wood dust and epoxy and then rasp flat and overlay on that.
I've used that trick a few times when needing to move a nock sideways to correct twist or string missalignment.
Del

[wood_bandit99]

I have a sander that I sand the nocks with then scratch it up with a hacksaw then glue it. Works great!!!!

[bow101]

Zion, if you don;t have much material to play with, go ahead glue on the overlays and if there is still a little gap I would take a small drill bit make a round hole and glue in a dowel. 1/8" size.

[koan]

Overlays have always been an afterthought for me so i have done all mine this way. But i use my existing grooves, just extend them into my overlay material. Works for me. If youve got a really flat back you dont have to grind any wood off. Thats kinda up to your personal taste... Brian

[Zion]

Thanks for all the help guys, i went ahead and glued an OS scrap on the top limb, the glue line's looking good. I think it should hold no problem. I just filed both surfaces flat and then put in some grooves with my knife to hold the glue in. The bow is probably gonna be my new #1, i'll post pics when it's all done.

[Thesquirrelslinger]

yep, you can do that. i would love to see it.
i have osage overlays that I put onto a RO board bow...

[Zion]

Sorry but what is an RO bow? Sounds cool.

[Weylin]

red oak 

[Zion]

I see. Not used to the term  probably since i've never used it haha.

[Thesquirrelslinger]

I see. Not used to the term  probably since i've never used it haha.

I had to ask what ERC was, Bl, Hl, RO, ELB, and a whole long list of bow-related stuff was...

[randman]

I've done overlays on pin nocks also.....