One other point while we're talking hinges and tip deflection. Ok, I'm the only one talking about it, but this is a good opportunity to cover another important point. When your hinge right against the fade, the natural assumption is that limb is weaker than the other. DON'T start reducing the other limb until that hinge is corrected. Chances are the hinged limb is still the stronger limb. The reason being that the closer the hinge is to the fade, the more tip deflection it causes. Once you correct the hinge, the limb seems to stiffen up. This is one of the many reasons why your first goal when you start tillering a bow is to get the limbs working properly. Once that's accomplished then you can start working it down towards target weight. Josh