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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2013, 02:08:18 am »
I was just thinking that the fire you build over the pit is not for the purpose of heat treating the chert but rather a process that creates charcoal. It is this charcoal that fuels a long and even burn that lasts for hours and hours  trapped between sand and insulating ash above. This ash blanket holds heat in and allows oxygen to enter slowly so it burns effeciently (because charcoal is more pure than wood) over a long period of time.
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2013, 02:47:13 am »
513 degrees and it is 12:28
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2013, 02:53:31 am »
Just wondering if anyone has ever done this on PA with a pyrometer.
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2013, 03:20:43 am »
Well it is 1am I am going to bed and the pit is at 512 degrees. It blows my mind that this crude process can hold a material within 20 degrees for hours and hours...how smart they were.
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2013, 08:17:41 am »
6 am see pic
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« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2013, 08:24:02 am »
As soon as my phone gets a little charge I will make a video of the infrared meter going over the surface. It would be the only way I would believe this post.
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2013, 09:03:12 am »
In trying to find answers I found this website http://flintknapper.com/Heat%20Treating.htm
It says that it took three days for their pit to cool. So maybe this is not too far off base
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2013, 09:23:44 am »
Well I shot a video but Derick wanted reading with photos so he could follow along.
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2013, 09:30:58 am »
Simply amazing. Who would have thought the fire would last this long :o

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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2013, 09:31:53 am »
Here is the current temp
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2013, 09:39:17 am »
Simply amazing. Who would have thought the fire would last this long :o
I wish I did then I would have gotten a little sleep lol.
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2013, 09:41:43 am »
As you saw in the video the flakes are thin so there should be a good cook on this stone if I did not crack it during the ramp up.
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2013, 10:43:16 am »
8:24 temp 528 surface temp 168. Looks like the surface temp drops as internal temp continue to go up. Maybe as the charcoal burns it create more insulation.
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2013, 11:01:09 am »
Other stuff to think about. My pit was dug from the pit of many fires. This rim mound and wall are composed of crushed burnt clay earth ash and unburnt particle of charcoal. As the fire heated the wall and mound it burnt out any unburnt charcoal pieces and thus created dead air spaces. This may also contribute to the efficiency of this firing.
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Re: Heat treating chert with fire, (videos added)
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2013, 11:04:13 am »
I am doing this again sometime this summer for sure with a much larger pit and more stone it is more fun than loading a kiln.
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