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Offline rkeltner

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core suggestions
« on: July 07, 2013, 01:48:39 pm »
having made a big purchase of 25 bamboo slats, i'm interested in suggestions for the ideal core wood for a boo back and belly bow. i'm looking for the lightest possible way to get 50 lbs., give or take.

Offline Pat B

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Re: core suggestions
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2013, 02:04:14 pm »
James Parker makes his boo backed and belly bows(Cane Dragon) with a multi-lamed core of maple laminated horizonally. Probably most of the whitewood bow woods will make a good core.
  Have you built a boo backed/belly bow yet? There is more to it than just adding boo on the back and belly of a core.
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Offline rkeltner

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Re: core suggestions
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2013, 06:52:22 pm »
this will be my first, so the learning curve is large! all suggestions are appreciated! :laugh: O:)

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Re: core suggestions
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 08:56:12 pm »
Just like with a FG bow everything has to be figured ahead of time as far as lam thicknesses and design. Plan on using mant of your boo slats before you get it figured out.
  Have you built a boo backed bow yet?  I'd say start there and work up to a boo back/belly bow.
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Re: core suggestions
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 10:22:09 pm »
I have done boo backed, but that seems to be little different from hickory backed. I hope to use the boo for something resembling one of the Asian or eastern Europe composites, in time.

Offline Joec123able

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Re: core suggestions
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013, 10:31:14 pm »
Maple or erc maybe
I like osage

Offline toomanyknots

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Re: core suggestions
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2013, 01:18:35 am »
What about poplar? Seems it would be lighter than maple most of the time, and stronger than erc? Plus you can get it about everywhere. Anybody heard of poplar used as a cord? I also have considered mahogany. It seems very light, lighter than maple, and it is strong enough to use on a guitar?
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 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

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Re: core suggestions
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 07:16:25 am »
Maple is the perfect core wood.
Sycamore is also a maple but lower s.g. than hard maple and works very well as a core wood.
The properties for a desirable core wood are something that is diffuse porous, has excellent gluing properties and is good in sheer.
Heat treat the belly slats before glue up to a good deep brown. It also helps to use any slats with more of a crown as the backs.
Of course you need to pre-tiller the strips bearing in mind the width profile you are going to use. To begin with i'd advise using a pyramid width taper this means that you don't have to worry about getting an even (and correct) taper on both limbs, you are simply aiming for arc of a circle tiller pre-glue up. Using a powerlam is the way to go to stop any excessive bend inner limb. Just keep it simple on the first few.

Offline Dances with squirrels

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Re: core suggestions
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2013, 07:31:40 am »
Consider black cherry.

Mike, keep it simple on a boo backed and bellied bow? Is that possible? :)
Straight wood may make a better bow, but crooked wood makes a better bowyer

Offline rkeltner

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Re: core suggestions
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2013, 10:04:54 am »
keep the advise coming!! I like information overload! the more the better!

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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 10:41:40 am »
Any wood considered bow wood will work if done right....and if done right all should and will weigh about the same mass wise,and will shoot so close fps wise your naked eye might not know the difference...my advice is to use the best available to you ;) and design it accordingly ;) ....good luck...sounds like your in a lil over your head...(no offense)

And are your referring to trying to make a asiatic style horn bow with a boo back n belly?

Offline rkeltner

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Re: core suggestions
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 01:07:30 pm »
in over my head is how I learn best!!!  ;D :o ::)  as for the composite, i'm thinking  something along the hun style horsebow

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Re: core suggestions
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2013, 12:02:57 am »
James Parker made an Asiatic style bow that is boo back and belly. That thing is a screamer!!!  8)
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC