heres the only pic i've got of the elk, i shot her at 50 yards with a 65#@30 pse longbow, and a 155 gn tusker broadhead and got a complete pass through, she walk/trotted about 25 yards looked back over her shoulder and fell over, from the time i released the arrow to when she fell was maybe 15-20 seconds, an outopsy (gutting) revealed she had died from big holes in both lungs. thanks a ton billy they are great arrows.