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Offline osage outlaw

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Shrub ID
« on: May 09, 2013, 10:09:45 pm »
Does anybody know what this shrub is?  Is it good bow wood?  I have cut a couple small pieces of it and have them drying. 







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Offline TRACY

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2013, 10:28:35 pm »
Don't have my glasses on but looks like autumn olive based on form and leaves that I have over here. Give it a go Clint

Forgot to say that I cut some for arrow shafts as well.

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Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 10:35:49 pm »
Thanks Tracy.  I just googled it.  I don't remember seeing any red berries on them.  I'll have to watch for them this fall. 
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Offline Josh B

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 11:39:04 pm »
Is it pretty thorny Clint?  Autumn Olive has alot of thorns.  Everywhere theres a twig coming off the branch, there's a thorn within a half inch or so.  If it is Autumn Olive, I tried it once last year and it didn't fair well in tension.  I have another piece to try  eventually.  Good luck, Josh

Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2013, 11:59:32 pm »
I didn't notice any thorns on it Josh. 
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Offline Josh B

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2013, 12:07:23 am »
If it was Autumn Olive, you would have noticed. ;)   It does resemble it otherwise. The leaves look a little like wild plumb as does the bark.  I'll Google it and check leaf arrangement. Josh

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2013, 12:15:15 am »
I don't think its sand plum either.  Plum has alternate leaves and should be loaded with white flowers right now.  Sorry man, as usual, I'm no help id'ng plants.  Josh

Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2013, 12:22:19 am »
I bet the underlying question is, "Is it bow wood?"   >:D
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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2013, 01:02:21 am »
I was thinking Autumn Olive too.
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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2013, 06:24:03 am »
quess we'll find out if it will make a bow when it's dry, I have a nice pc of oleander that's ready, gonna find out if it's a better bow wood than poplar, heck almost anything is better bow wood than poplar >:DBub
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Offline wapiti1997

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2013, 06:25:14 am »
Yes, that's autumn olive, aka russian olive..

Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2013, 06:26:58 am »
OK.  Thanks guys.  I guess I'll give it a try and see what happens.
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Offline DarkSoul

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2013, 07:21:21 am »
Yes, that's autumn olive, aka russian olive..
Autumn olive is NOT the same species as Russian olive. Both are in the same genus Elaeagnus, but different species.

Looking at some pictures online, it appears to match Autumn olive, Elaeagnus umbellata. The leaves are too broad for russian olive, and the lack of thorns is a good indicator as well. I think I can see some flower buds forming in the leaf axils, but hard to say from the picture. The bark matches autumn olive as well.

I don't know if autumn olive will make a bow, but I'm confident in the ID.
Leaving such a young, green stick in the round is not a smart idea, though. It can check within days or even hours. Reduce it a bit on one side, so any checks radiating from the pith will only form on this one side you've already reduced. Seal the ends and the back, and put it somewhere to dry slowly. I personally would have left the bark on such a stick.
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Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2013, 07:51:38 am »
I left the bark on the other piece that I cut.  I figured I would try one each way and see what happens.  The ends are sealed and I'll try reducing the belly side when I get home.  The wood is very wet feeling.  Thanks for the info.
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Offline Thesquirrelslinger

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Re: Shrub ID
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2013, 07:57:37 am »
Id like to say its honeysuckle... but I know it isn't. the leaves are totally wrong.
Honeysuckle is a great bow wood IMO.
It is quite dense.
If this wood is dense, it will probably make a good bow.
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