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Offline dwardo

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Bowyers eyes please.
« on: April 13, 2013, 09:03:12 am »
Ayup all,

This is my first attempt at a lever type bow, well the first got this far anyway ;)

Right looks a little stiff in spots to me. Bow is 61 inches long and the working limbs are only about 16 inches long each  :o surely this cant be right lol! To be honest except maybe Blackhawks lever bows i find them pretty ugly  :D
Anways its taken only an inch of follow so far. Started flat took an inch about 18 draw, heat treated flat again and now has the inch back at about 26 draw length where its pulling about 50lb give or take. Still a load of mass i can remove from the tips and levers if it makes it that far. Oh its cherry again btw. working limbs 2, 3/8







knot right through upper mid lmb (right)

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Offline burchett.donald

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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2013, 09:16:24 am »
  Wow! nice bend on some Cherry...
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2013, 09:20:31 am »
That's awful close...how's it look in the hand?

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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2013, 09:25:46 am »
That's awful close...how's it look in the hand?
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Was hoping you would be around bud  ;)

Once the missus and boy wake up will get a drawn int hand shot and post it, wont be long.
The first time i measured the working limbs i thought, nah that cant be right lol, but then took another look at some of your stuff and it made me feel better.
Post it up in a bit.
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Offline dwardo

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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2013, 09:33:19 am »
Whilst they sleep i am also playing with this




this is way to heavy at the minute and needs reducing a hell of a lot before i over-power the belly.

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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2013, 09:54:49 am »
Looking really nice!  Sweet bend for sure.   I love Cherry, but a tough candidate for this type of bow.  Excellent!
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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2013, 10:09:16 am »
looks good! i really like the side profile. the curved tips make it look so much better!

In your first port you called this a "lever type bow". Can you explain the meaning of that? I have not heard this term before. Isn't this bow design a Holmegaard?
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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2013, 10:20:44 am »
looks good! i really like the side profile. the curved tips make it look so much better!

In your first port you called this a "lever type bow". Can you explain the meaning of that? I have not heard this term before. Isn't this bow design a Holmegaard?

Lever bow just meaning the outer limbs are stiff and thin acting like levers to the bending inner portion of the limb. I would say more mollegabet in style but an extreme one as the original seems to have much shorter "levers"
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There are two different bows above if that wasnt clear sorry. 

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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2013, 11:36:37 am »

Right looks a little stiff in spots to me.

I thought the right was bending more than the left, but not so evenly :?

Bow is 61 inches long and the working limbs are only about 16 inches long each  :o surely this cant be right lol!
The one I've just finished was 18" of working limb in 68" OAL - about 2/3 working limb, 1/3 lever.

Anyways its taken only an inch of follow so far. Started flat took an inch about 18 draw, heat treated flat again and now has the inch back at about 26 draw length where its pulling about 50lb give or take. Still a load of mass i can remove from the tips and levers if it makes it that far. Oh its cherry again btw. working limbs 2, 3/8

Not too much set then - looking forward to seeing more of this one.
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2013, 12:09:35 pm »
Wow, lookin' V sweet to me Dude.
I sometimes think lever bows have too much happening over too short a distance. Yours looks nice and smooth, not over working near the grip.
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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2013, 02:36:50 pm »
Wow, lookin' V sweet to me Dude.
I sometimes think lever bows have too much happening over too short a distance. Yours looks nice and smooth, not over working near the grip.
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Thanks Dell, when you look at how much wood there is doing the work it is a little offputting and counterintuitive.
The missus just gave me that look when I asked her to go outside in the cold n rain to take a rd shot so that's out till the morrow.
Put just a few arrows through this at 3/4 draw and it's an odd feeling. I could have went for a slightly bending handle and a tiny amount of bend in the levers but this is a kind of test for cherry so might as well push the boat out and see what it can take. The static above is also cherry so will see how that fairs.
I have a static wych elm roughed out which has thinner working limbs than these two but it's shockingly more dense than the cherry. At smaller diensions I still can't get it to flex at all at floor tiller!

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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2013, 02:47:16 pm »
Is this bow from a stave or board ??
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2013, 02:57:04 pm »
Is this bow from a stave or board ??

Stave Joe, not had the pleasure of working a board yet. Most local lumber suppliers over here stock pine, pine, pine and chipboard.

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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2013, 03:45:23 pm »
Wow, lookin' V sweet to me Dude.
I sometimes think lever bows have too much happening over too short a distance. Yours looks nice and smooth, not over working near the grip.
Del

Thanks Dell, when you look at how much wood there is doing the work it is a little offputting and counterintuitive.
The missus just gave me that look when I asked her to go outside in the cold n rain to take a rd shot so that's out till the morrow.
Put just a few arrows through this at 3/4 draw and it's an odd feeling. I could have went for a slightly bending handle and a tiny amount of bend in the levers but this is a kind of test for cherry so might as well push the boat out and see what it can take. The static above is also cherry so will see how that fairs.
I have a static wych elm roughed out which has thinner working limbs than these two but it's shockingly more dense than the cherry. At smaller diensions I still can't get it to flex at all at floor tiller!
I like the concept of a sllght flex in handle and levers, it shows they are not carrying excess weight :)
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Re: Bowyers eyes please.
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2013, 06:25:07 pm »
Nice bow! That's a wrap. Super tiller. I hate "the look". I wonder  how many times I got the look in 41 years of marriage. :) Jawge
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