Now I remember. Christian Soldiers comments jogged my antiquated memory. On several occasions the tiller WAS good enough but then I decided to make it BETTER! Bang! The mistake was not trusting my instincts. There is more to a good tiller than meets the eye. Further, as a bowyer I strive to use all my senses in tillering. So far I've only put 3 of 5 to work. Jawge