Serviceberry Semi-Gullwing bow

[Badly Bent]

Nice bend on that bow Zion and real cool primitive looker too. How narrow is it at the arrow pass? Looks like it would be a weak spot there but I hear that hawthorne is some strong stuff. I was eyeing some hawthorne in the woods saturday but unfortunately I can't
cut any trees down there, public land and not allowed.
Really like these bows you've been making.

[richardzane]

great job Zion,
dang....kinda gives a new definition to "a kids bow" 
maybe for us grampas we need to label ours as  oldfarts bows

[coaster500]

Another beauty Zion. Nobody on here can critique your bows cuz they always have perfect tiller. All we can do is drool....90# Holy Crap Boy! I'm a big guy, 6'1" 200lbs and I can barely string a 70# let alone pull the thing to my 28" draw length. I'd sure hate to have to meet you on the wrestlin mat. Any of those guys you wrestle with know what you do on the side for your hobby?

X2

[Zion]

Thanks guys!

Yeah it is good training especially for my shoulders when shooting, + all the work it takes to harvest these darn things. 5 miles for 2 sticks usually lol.

Thanks Majsnuff, it's a great wood but it can be tricky getting the higher weights out of them without chrysals.

Thanks Jmilbrandt

Thanks Randman, it's all about the training methods! Somebody can be bulky but if you don't condition the muscles than their pretty much useless lol. One of my assistant coaches knows i make bows and i think he has a relative that does too.

Pearl i use a bathroom scale with a stick that shows drawlengths at inch incraments. I put the string on the top of the stick and pull the bow down. I read the weight. That's the weight of my bow when drawn. (I know it's accurate because i use it to make sure i make my weight.)

 Thanks Greg, it is pretty narrow at the arrow pass. But the wood on this piece is very strong so hopefully it won't blow up too soon  Just sneak in at night and cut em 

Thanks Coaster!
 
VMB do u think their too big? I could always narrow them down more. I put a pic in for reference.

Thanks for the comments guys i appreciate it!

[Zion]

And thanks RichardZane 

[dwardo]

Thanks guys!

Pearl i use a bathroom scale with a stick that shows drawlengths at inch incraments. I put the string on the top of the stick and pull the bow down. I read the weight. That's the weight of my bow when drawn. (I know it's accurate because i use it to make sure i make my weight.)

I dont think that is going to give you an accurate measurement matey. It is a sweet looking bow but there just doesnt seem to be enough wood there for the 90lbs. I maybe completely wrong but just seems very high for the profile.

[Zion]

How should i weigh it then? I don't have any other kind of scale. What would make it innaccurate? 

[dwardo]

How should i weigh it then? I don't have any other kind of scale. What would make it innaccurate? 

Grab a fishing scale or even some decent luggage scales. The bow handle should be on something solid, a block on a wall or a block nailed to a tree, pulley on the floor maybe. Guess I am saying tillering tree
If I am wrong then apologies in advance and I need to wonder why all of my bows are very light for around the same looking mass as yours.

[dwardo]

Would be handy if you could weigh the bow its self and let us know how heavy it is, mass seems to be pretty predictable according the the mass theory which always seems to point me in the right direction.

Once again its a lovely bow.

[Zion]

Ok i weighed it with the string, i believe it's somewhere around .5 lbs, very hard to tell tho, i could easily be wrong.

[dmenzies1950]

Zion, I love your bows for their simplicity. Like you could just take them out into the woods, bang them against trees and rocks, and still go out and kill something with them. Your tiller is always right on, and you make them out of wood that you harvest yourself! That's what primitive archery is all about in my opinion. I appeciate the fact that you at such a young age have such a passion for this craft, and share your work with all of us. Please keep it up!     Dale

[Horse Thief Killer]

Awesome bow. I dont ever comment and I say this is a awesome bow. I would say that it is quite possible for the bow to be 90# at 24. Most of these style bows were that or even higher. You get more bang for your buck with the gullwing and handle style. I am sure that it could handle taking down a buffalo easy with one or two shots.

[PEARL DRUMS]

Zion I use a digital bow scale that is +/- 1#. We also have a nice digital bathroom scale. I will check one bow both ways and let you know what I find out.

An 80-90# bow takes one heck of an arrow buddy, you can easily get hurt shooting 80-90# bows without shafts in the appropriate range. Its different than plinking around with 40-60# bows.

[dwardo]

Ok i weighed it with the string, i believe it's somewhere around .5 lbs, very hard to tell tho, i could easily be wrong.

Thanks for that. I had problems weighing my bows as I didnt have any scales that were light enough, found a set at my local supermarket that were perfect and cheap. I dont think your scales are fine enough to weigh the bow as .5 8 ounce is very light indeed.
If you ever come across a set that will weigh lighter objects please let me know what it weighed. Either way great bow,.

[danny f]

nice bow i like the primitive look.