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Offline vinemaplebows

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ERC BOW
« on: March 02, 2013, 08:29:57 pm »
So, I post this for pearlie I want to see him talk nice about ERC, and BUILD A KILLER BOW FROM IT! So stats 68 long I think if I were to do it again, I would stay around 66. 1 3/4 at fades, purple heart handle build up with some other wood I can't remember I built this bow some ten yrs ago..... anyway 55@28 maple backing. I was building quite a few cedar bows for a while yrs back, and really like the wwod "if" you can find it realtilively clean, I still have clean boards of it today.
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2013, 09:36:20 pm »
Amazing bow. Also amazing that you have boards of clean erc, :). How do you feel about a erc board bow with a bunch of knots in it, backed with something like hickory?
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 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2013, 10:21:51 pm »
Sweet!!!! Is that rattler backing?
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Offline vinemaplebows

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2013, 11:26:21 pm »
Amazing bow. Also amazing that you have boards of clean erc, :). How do you feel about a erc board bow with a bunch of knots in it, backed with something like hickory?

You know I really don't know how I feel about it, because I was trying to build bows for other people, and therefore I always tried to get as near perfect wood as possible......for myself I thought it would be a challenge, and had considered it, but I live so far away from a hardwood store now I just never got a knotty piece I would try it in a heartbeat though!(it would look cool in my opinion) One more thing this was a billet glue up, and it is easier to find clear shorter pieces than full length boards.

Yes, rattler backed, osage limb tip overlays.
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Offline Jmilbrandt

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2013, 11:31:59 pm »
That's beautiful! I have a few clean boards of erc, I know a guy who makes furniture from it and he has hundreds of lumberized board he'll sell. I might have to try one like that now. How do you think it would hold up under hickory?
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Offline vinemaplebows

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 11:35:16 pm »
Not a problem, I think I would keep it to 3/16 or even thinner to not add any undue weight, but I have also backed it with bamboo again thin!
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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2013, 11:47:44 pm »
Sweeet bow! But how do u think ERC would do as a self bow? It seems like all erc bows i see have a backing, probably with good reason lol  ???
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Offline vinemaplebows

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2013, 12:04:45 am »
Zion,

                I think it is bowyer skill 80%. 20% picking the right piece and carefully evaluating what that particular piece can handle. A lot of new bowyers will try to force "their" needs based on past experience with other woods rather that letting the wood dictate what "it" needs. I suggest any bowyer to overbuild a bow, especially if they have not worked it before.....when you get a feel for the wood do what you think it will take. Mine is backed because I am on the west coast and can't cut my own.
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Offline coaster500

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2013, 12:09:37 am »
Beautiful bow and I think you're right "CLEAN" makes ERC alot more user friendly. I have an ERC ELB that really shoots well but it came from a "CLEAN" near perfect stave.

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Offline gpw

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2013, 08:57:21 am »
 We’ve used the knotty stuff, just as it came from the harvested  tree (small knots ) with no problems .... and we used the typical thin Hickory backing ...   Made Great shooters ... Good cast , Light in hand !!!   All mine were “man tall” ... made to shoot heavy “logs” ...  ;D

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2013, 09:32:22 am »
Very nice bow Brian. I would attempt an ERC selfbow if I had the stave. I wont go looking to cut any as I only want one. I havent seen any around me yet I would want to harvest, 99.9% are knotted up messes it seems. I guess a splice would be a better bet? 
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Offline gpw

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2013, 11:13:43 am »
PD, easier to find a good ERC “board"   ... (heresy)  ::)   hahahahaha   :laugh:

Offline Arrowind

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2013, 11:21:45 am »
Nice bow! 
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Offline vinemaplebows

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2013, 04:30:31 pm »
Pearl you want a clean board?
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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2013, 04:42:56 pm »
How's this for a clean stave of ERC? ;D I've been sitting on this piece of wood since 2006. There isn't even a pin knot in it.

Brian, that bamboo backed ERC you sent me a long time ago is still shooting fine.
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