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Offline bigpapa

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cedar bow??
« on: March 01, 2013, 11:47:41 am »
Howdy Yall. Got a question. What kinda weight could I expect to get out of a cedar self bow? Also, wanting to make a cedar kids bow too for my grandaughter. It'll have to be a easy one for her to learn with. Any ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2013, 12:02:11 pm »
Eastern Red Cedar will make a hunting weight bow, Western cedar very light weight.  I would be afraid to shoot a Western cedar bow.

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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 12:24:20 pm »
Wear a helmet and be sure you grand daughter does.  ;) :) :)
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 12:31:37 pm »
Im with Pappy. Not much about ERC excites me except its gorgeous color. Back it with hickory or sinew and you MIGHT have a fighting chance.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 12:55:34 pm »
In my limited experience I think hickory backed ERC makes a great bow. I have made three and working on my forth HBERC and no problems... Yet :)
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2013, 01:32:06 pm »
Hmmm.. well I've got gobs of hickory. What would be the best glue to laminate them together? And how light of a weight could I get out of one for her? She is just three, but gonna start her out right!
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2013, 01:45:29 pm »
Howdy,  As you can see, opinions vary widely on eastern red cedar's suitability for making bows.   I happen to believe that ERC and other junipers can make very good bows.    Junipers can be weak in tension, so a backing of some sort is a good idea.  A good clean knot-free stave can work well with no backing, but the back must be pristine.  I've made backed ERC bows to 65# and unbacked to 40#.
You will get many votes for Tightbond glues.   Tightbond 2 works well in gluing on a mood or bamboo backing.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 01:59:24 pm »
Thanks, guys. Can anyone post a few links for a cedar selfbow? I've been lookin and can't quite figure out how much of the sapwood (?) To take off.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2013, 02:15:47 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2013, 02:24:19 pm »
Pearl,

                 You should spend more time with Easrtern cedar it makes a fine bow!
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Offline Weylin

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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2013, 02:26:56 pm »
If you have lots of hickory why don't you just make her a hickory self bow and rest easy that it wont detonate on her?
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2013, 02:27:40 pm »
Thanks ionic. Actually just got done reading that one.  :D
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Re: cedar bow??
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2013, 02:29:23 pm »
Quote from: Weylin on March 01, 2013, 02:26:56 pm
If you have lots of hickory why don't you just make her a hickory self bow and rest easy that it wont detonate on her?

Well, that's also my other option.  ;D. Might just do that, its just them cedar ones sho' be purty! Lol!
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2013, 02:44:41 pm »
Big poppa use as much of thhe sap as u can iv made 110# war bows with it if u got the sap use it its qay stronger thhan the heartwood for the kids id use a 1/2 slat backed with 1/8 hickory made llits if lighhtr wt bows with that and go onne bettr use tb 3 not 2 brock
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2013, 03:11:50 pm »
Quote from: vinemaplebows on March 01, 2013, 02:24:19 pm
Pearl,

                 You should spend more time with Easrtern cedar it makes a fine bow!


I cant make a bow from any of the pine wood Brian. Ive tried enough man! My skills just dont match its requirements.


 
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