Thanks guys
Graylan- was nice meeting you guys too. I use an Overstreet guide for my research in points. Yeah I made the tent. it is out of drop cloths but this one is not sealed. with the rainfly on it keeps try even in a downpour. I had one that was sealed but I hated the smell and actually didn't repel any more water. I don't have any plans or anything, just started making. It is really simple and really complicated at the same time....lol