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Offline Don

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48" osage bendy bow ?
« on: February 09, 2013, 10:12:55 pm »
I'm working on my first bendy.
It's 1" wide @ center to 3/4" at tips. 3/4" thick @ center tapering out. This is a sliver I had laying around.
Also it has or had about 6" of reflex.
It is flexing at center but I'm going to stay away from it for now.
I have it at short string now and know it will be light but that's OK, this is practice.

My question. What kind of draw length can I get from it?
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Offline Don

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2013, 10:46:15 pm »
Never mind. Pulled about 15" and broke.
Learned a few things anyway.
Thanks
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Offline okie64

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2013, 11:03:45 pm »
Any clues as to why it broke? It should have made it farther than 15" unless it was way too heavy poundage.
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Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2013, 11:11:06 pm »
48" long and 1" wide.  That is a tough design to pull off.  And for me, I know sometimes those slivers of wood that get thrown into experimental duty don't always get the same kind of back treatment as less-experimental staves. 
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Offline Don

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2013, 11:18:17 pm »
I think is with that much reflex along with being narrow and I was doing some what of a rounded belly.
It may have been ok if I had more length or less reflex.
It was looking good for awhile.  ;D
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Offline JonW

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2013, 11:40:05 pm »
Don where did it break? That length and width would have made a nice little D/R bow. Just something to think about for a second try.
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Offline Don

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2013, 12:19:46 am »
Broke at mid limb. Just got done getting the handle to bend just a bit more to.
Thanks Jon I will. This one could have been done that way. I had to do a lot of straightening anyway.
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Offline Jodocus

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2013, 04:55:23 am »
Those 6" of reflex will probably have to be added to draw lenght to get an idea of the stress in the wood. So about 21" when it broke. I never touched osage, but with other woods, a flawless stave and tiller might have allowed only little more, 2"or 3" maybe.
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Offline sleek

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 05:06:12 am »
The shortest I have gone is 50 inches, 38 lbs@24. 1 1/8 inches wide.  It can be done.
I should add, it had 4 inches of natural deflex. I tried to make one from the reflexed sister to it and it broke. You need deflex on this style bow. IMHO


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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2013, 08:27:14 am »
Add 2-3 layers of sinew and hide glue and it will bend much farther than half its length, and a bunch of reflex will come right back. Try again Don!

Reflex doesnt break short bows, poor tillering and asking too much from it does though, IMHO.
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Offline JonW

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 08:36:44 am »
Chris I agree and disagree. Sinew and reflex is good because of the shift in the neutral plane. Too much reflex on too short of a piece of wood will USUALLY add too much stress.
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2013, 08:41:32 am »
Im finishing up a 46" ntn bow that started at 6" of reflex, it pulls 26", but feels better at 25". I will let you know how it goes. Here it is tillered and shot about 15-20 times.



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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2013, 09:39:27 am »
It just depends on the particular piece of wood...I've made enough highly reflexed to start bows unbacked and backed with sinew or rawhide(n had all 3 types break)...and it takes an exceptional piece to survive because it is asking a lot of the wood.....its like gambling...you just might go broke
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Offline JonW

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2013, 10:11:04 am »
Chris are you counting the approximately four inches or so of flipped tips as reflex or six plus the flipped tips?
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Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: 48" osage bendy bow ?
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2013, 12:34:06 pm »
How wide are the limbs on that horsebow Pearl?
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