thanks again guys for your help! appreciate it! now, although many will say "you can build a bow" I know I'd be arrested for abuse to nature for trying..no patience no tools, and I'm a gotta see it done type...telling reading..ain't gonna work..that's why I asked about builders lol.. as for length..each bow I've had was 69" long..draw is 28" weight between 45-55 lbs, one bow, riser separated from limbs (adhesive?) one broke about 1 foot from string nock, and holmegaard cracked 4" from handle..think limbs were hard maple on that.. would eventually love to get a really good custom bow..seen many that shoot very well an look awesome too..just tryingto get an idea of what best to go with..until then I'll try to get something inexpensive to hopefully carry me until I get the funds saved up,,,for ?? lol again appreciate all your time an help! RC