Our group gets together on thursday nights here in Michigan. I am on my third self bow attempt. It's nice to have some experienced bow makers on hand to answer questions. We go beyond making bows as one guy has a dowel maker and we make arrows, atlatl's throwers and darts and I do a little flintknapping once in awhile. We are lucky to have a guy furnish a nice heated work area in this 9 degree snowy weather.