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Offline Shiloh

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Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« on: January 09, 2013, 08:42:12 pm »
I've got a red oak board that will (hopefully) be turned into a hunting/training bow for this fall. My question is, with the #48 or so that I'm hoping to get out of it, do you think I could get away without a backing on this one, or should I fork over the cash for linen?







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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2013, 08:44:13 pm »
Linen wont help. Grain is everything with boards.
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Offline BOWMAN53

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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 08:45:59 pm »
You can get away with it as long you sand it nice and smooth then put lots of clear shellac. I'm no expert but that's what i did with my last red oak pyramid now that didn't have perfect grain.

Offline ionicmuffin

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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2013, 08:46:44 pm »
it looks just fine to me. The grain looks as if its fairly strait i dont see why you cant get anything out of it.
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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 08:54:27 pm »
You can get away with it as long you sand it nice and smooth then put lots of clear shellac. I'm no expert but that's what i did with my last red oak pyramid now that didn't have perfect grain.


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Offline ionicmuffin

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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2013, 09:01:15 pm »
what ive experienced is that so long as the grain is close to strait it will be just fine, if its slanted diagonally then it might be a problem, but it looks fine!
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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2013, 09:01:35 pm »
You can get away with it as long you sand it nice and smooth then put lots of clear shellac. I'm no expert but that's what i did with my last red oak pyramid now that didn't have perfect grain.


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Offline ionicmuffin

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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2013, 09:04:20 pm »
as to you two and not quite understanding him, i believe what he means is that by getting the backing to a very fine point with absolutely no rough edges then there shouldn't be any splinters unless the bow wasn't going to be one anyway. As to the shellac i have no clue what hes talking about lol  ;) :D
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Offline BOWMAN53

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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2013, 09:55:32 pm »
Don't listen to me lol. I was thinking of potential splinters lifting by the run offs but even then it doesn't really make sense.

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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2013, 10:00:04 pm »
Iconic muffin understands my weirdness lol. As for the shellac, it makes sense in my head that a splinter would have a hard time lifting though a thick layer of clear.

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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2013, 10:07:23 pm »
Shellac will protect the back the same as air

Offline Shiloh

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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2013, 10:08:05 pm »
Thanks for the input guys, I'll just sand it nice and smooth, round the corners, and be REALLY careful during tillering.  ;D
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Offline rossfactor

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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 10:09:59 pm »
Grain is far from ideal. However, I think that with a linen backing that bow could easily survive, as long as its well tillered. I think no amount of sanding and shellac will stop grain violations and run-offs from lifting splinters.


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Offline Shiloh

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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 10:13:31 pm »
That sounds like a good idea.
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Re: Can I get away without a backing on this one?
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 10:16:57 pm »
My phone isn't that great to see the detail of photo posted,are pics 234 edge shoots or on the flat?
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