@bm53,I have bout 15 working bows and gifted 5.don't hear people talking about the other way to break one,crunch instead of tick!one of my first was a bbb ash (bad idea)the bamboo crushed the belly on the stick!the second was a bbbosage much to my dismay!the osage was terrible,swirls ,twirls,island' pin knots and lots early wood!62" ,heat treated the handle 5" of reflex,recurved the tip(shallow) came out @62#@ 28.got about 200 arrows thru it and crunch!the braced profile went to hell!both were 1-1/4 @ the fades and made from boards.the tiller wasn't prefect but neither am I,so I think the belly matters!