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Offline toomanyknots

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I was watching a bbc except of a show on youtube recently, where Richard Head was giving an archery demo with some of his bows, and he said something that caught my ear. He said that the longbow is called a longbow because it is shot longways, and not crossways, like a cross bow? Is this true? I never knew that. I guess I always figured that it was called a longbow because compared to other bows, it was longer. But that makes sense, as back in the day, there wasn't any other bows to compare a longbow to,  ;D.
"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline Adam

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2013, 08:27:22 pm »
Hmmm.  That's interesting.  I always thought it was due to they're longer length too.  Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2013, 09:58:13 pm »
Which Richard Head was it? I know several of them:)

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2013, 10:01:39 pm »
Which Richard Head was it? I know several of them:)
>:D me to ;D


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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2013, 11:19:49 pm »
I think his good friends call him Dick Head. Of course.
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2013, 11:24:37 pm »
I think his good friends call him Dick Head. Of course.

...Ok, now I get the joke,  ;D. Took me a minute, lol.

EDIT: Here is the video clip I was talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COpXfXjMPJU
« Last Edit: January 01, 2013, 11:27:41 pm by toomanyknots »
"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline Shaun

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2013, 12:14:40 am »
There were short bows in medieval times. Used for closer fighting/hunting and not capable of shooting yard long heavy arrows and piercing armor like the long bows of the English army 

Offline BillBow

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2013, 08:03:27 am »
Hmmmm,
Maybe he would call a Flatbow one owned by someone living in a Flat.
That is as daft as Toxophilus and others saying a Longbowman was always expected to "hit his man" at 250 yards.

Offline Hrothgar

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2013, 10:34:51 am »
And the Holmegaard was so named because it 'protected the home'... ;D
" To be, or not to be"...decisions, decisions, decisions.

Offline Prignitzer bowman

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2013, 01:30:40 pm »
A well known historian recently told me that a recurve was called a recurve because the arrow would come back to the archer once shot! (It wasn't called a boomerang bow because the Vikings hadn't discovered Australia yet)

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2013, 01:37:11 pm »
We are laughing with some good jokes here, but honestly, I can see the logic behind his conclusion, and would hope he didnt just come up with the idea on his own and broadcast it without research..... Doesnt mean he didnt though....
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2013, 02:01:12 pm »
"The term "longbow" is coined ca. 1500 in reference to the English longbow, to distinguish the simple self bow from the shorter composite bow. In medieval times in Britain the weapon was usually known as a "hand" or a "lug" bow, distinguishing it from the crossbow."

Quoted this from a wiki article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longbow

EDIT: Also, this:

"The first recorded use of the term 'longbow', as distinct from simply 'bow', occurs in a Paston Letter of the 15th century."


Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_longbow
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 02:09:02 pm by toomanyknots »
"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline sleek

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2013, 02:05:10 pm »
So long bow is more of a modern term.
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2013, 02:08:39 pm »
And the quote from the Paston letters:

"RYT wurchipful hwsbond, I recomawnd me to ʒu, and prey ʒw to gete som crosse bowis, and wyndacs2 to bynd them with, and quarrels;3 for ʒour hwsis her ben so low that ther may non man schet owt with no long bowe, thow we hadde never so moche nede."


Or, translated to modern english:

"Right worshipful husband, I recommend me to you, and pray you to get some crossbows and windlasses to bind them with, and crossbow bolts; for your houses here are so low that there may no man shoot out with a longbow, though we had never so much need."

Link: http://www.luminarium.org/medlit/paston1449.htm

EDIT: Opps, I mis-qouted the top quote at first due to sloppy copy/paste-ing, fixed it now though.
"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

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Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2013, 02:29:58 pm »
Ceiling was so low that you couldnt hold a bow Long ways huh?
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