i met with failure also white wood. i shot a spike last night at twelve yards, and the arrow went right behind the shoulder, about four inches back, centered up and down. believe it or not, the arrow BOUNCED off! i am shopoting a dag gone 65 lb bow. the arrow bounced off! stone point, that was pretty dang sharp, must have hit a rib, and caught the arrow in the worst possible wobble it has ever done. they shoot good - i have no ide what happened. did not even draw blood. he stuckl around for about 30 minutes after. no wound no blood started feeding after about 15 minutes out in the field. i have no idea. i am going to the store for some steel broadheads. they fly nicer for me anyway