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Offline Bryce

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Re: Vine maple deflex, reflex, deflex, reflex, deflex...its a build-along!
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2012, 01:31:21 am »
Noooooooooooooooooo! How much of the stave can you salvage?
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Re: Vine maple deflex, reflex, deflex, reflex, deflex...its a build-along!
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2012, 01:52:19 am »
There is still a bow in there.  I might have to dial back my target draw weight and draw length.   :-[   

Hindsight is 20/20, but I feel like I should have seen that split coming, the way I tried to bend it with that small bite out. 

To answer some earlier questions, it was growing pretty well straight up. So the tension and compression wood would have alternated through the zigs and zags. 
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The humanities grew out from archery as a flower from a seed
No sooner did the soft, sweet note of the bow-string charm the ear of genius than music was born, and from music came poetry and painting and..." Maurice Thompso

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Re: Vine maple deflex, reflex, deflex, reflex, deflex...its a build-along!
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2012, 01:56:34 am »
Well hopefully you can still pull a hunting weapon out of it.
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Re: Vine maple deflex, reflex, deflex, reflex, deflex...its a build-along!
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2012, 01:58:04 am »
One of the most beuatiful staves I have ever seen....   :'( :'( :'(

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Re: Vine maple deflex, reflex, deflex, reflex, deflex...its a build-along!
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2012, 03:25:41 am »
Aww....too bad:-(, such a wicked stave.

I kinda knew it would blow when I saw the dry-heat picture. Steaming or boiling would have increased the chance of success I think.

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Re: Vine maple deflex, reflex, deflex, reflex, deflex...its a build-along!
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2012, 06:23:31 am »
That's too bad.  I never heat bend until the bow is reduced quite a bit, usually around floor tillering stage.  I'm wondering, if you keep the long side as your bow, if you still can't pull off your plan?  The tips are going to be quite thin anyway.

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Re: Vine maple deflex, reflex, deflex, reflex, deflex...its a build-along!
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2012, 10:49:59 am »
It does kinda look like you should be able to still give it a go, just perhaps shortening the length a little?  Like George said, I'd reduce that thing down to ground tiller before anything is done.

Good luck, hope your not throwing in the towel.
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Re: Vine maple deflex, reflex, deflex, reflex, deflex...its a build-along!
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2012, 11:59:57 am »
Ive broke a good bit o vine maple using dry heat.
Steam has worked much better for me or boiling is even better

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Re: Vine maple deflex, reflex, deflex, reflex, deflex...its a build-along!
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2012, 12:27:30 pm »
I haven't thrown in the towel yet.  A little more info on the break: The dry heat set-up was not productive.  I let it rest up overnight, and then boiled the end for 1.5 hrs, I pulled it out and started leaning on it. It started to bend, then split.

It does appear to still have enough mass where I need it, but that first knot/bend above the attempted bend is really soft. I need to rough out a few other bows, before I can come back to this one. 
"The bow is the old first lyre,
the mono chord, the initial rune of fine art
The humanities grew out from archery as a flower from a seed
No sooner did the soft, sweet note of the bow-string charm the ear of genius than music was born, and from music came poetry and painting and..." Maurice Thompso