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Offline sleek

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Black Cherry in the works
« on: October 21, 2012, 05:47:30 am »
I am working on a Black Cherry bow at the moment. She will be 61 inches long, stiff handle, D bow, 1.5 out the fades, pyramid design with 3/8 tips, 40lbs@26 inches, heat treated belly with black silk backing. I have never attempted any Cherry before and am really hoping this comes out. If it does, I have another slightly wider stave that may become a mild re-curve pushing 45@28. I may or may not be making this for my Christmas exchange, I wanna keep ya'll guessing :).  And just to make it fun, I plan on posting the next 10 bows I build on here ( I hope to have them all started and finished within the next 30 days ( lots of orders )).  Pics up soon...
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Offline RyanY

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2012, 01:11:41 pm »
Starting so short and that narrow at the fades for a pyramid style I doubt that you'll have enough mass for your desired specs, especially being black cherry. Also I don't think heat treating is a good idea since I've heard that it tends to be a tension weak wood. The backing will definitely be necessary.

Offline sharpend60

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2012, 01:19:16 pm »
I think Ryoon may be onto something.
Maybe ya wanna get the handle bending for some more length.

Black Cherry has a reputation for being hard to work, i.e. explosive.
But those that do get shooters report an awesome cast.

Offline sleek

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 01:27:10 pm »
Then I will tiller by trapping the belly more and more agressivly until I get the draw weight and length I want.
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Offline JonW

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2012, 02:35:20 pm »
I don't understand what a "stiff handled Pyramid design D bow" is. Fill me in.

Offline sleek

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2012, 03:46:44 pm »
The handle doesnt bend, the front profile is pyramid, and the bow side profile when strung is D shaped. Going for elliptical tiller.
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Offline SLIMBOB

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2012, 03:54:06 pm »
I love Black Cherry.  Mainly because of the challenges it presents.  My take, 61" is short, 1.5" is narrow for this wood with a stiff handle, even at 26" draw.  At those dimensions I would rawhide back it.  I would not heat treat the belly.  The back holding together will be your challenge with this wood, not the belly taking set.  I assume you are working a stave.  If possible go longer and or wider.  Reverse trap or rounded belly. 
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Offline okie64

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2012, 06:35:30 pm »
Wear some safety glasses ;)

Offline nativenoobowyer86

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2012, 06:44:32 pm »
Take Pictures :)
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Offline Ifrit617

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2012, 07:15:10 pm »
I agree with everything that has been said... I much prefer a bendy handle bow when using cherry, but have never been a fan of the wood due to its explosiveness...

Jon

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2012, 12:01:22 am »
My first and only attempt at cherry blew up when nearly finished. I have no further interest in using it as bow wood. It makes nice cabinets.
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Offline sleek

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2012, 12:08:08 am »
I have almost decided to boo back it. Any thoughts? I can not make it any wider or longer, its all the length and width I have to work with.
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Offline bubby

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2012, 03:50:18 am »
i think that boo will overpower the belly, i'd try maple or white oak, but that's just me, Bub
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Offline sleek

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2012, 04:51:16 am »
Reckon hickory would work? Its all I have for a possible backing. I can crown the hickory if need be?
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Offline chamookman

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Re: Black Cherry in the works
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2012, 08:05:34 am »
Seeing that You have access to BC staves, can You harvest some BC bark ? Fantastic backing and pretty too.
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