Like i said, my friend has 20+ acres of land, much of it is scotch broom and fir/pine trees, many huge maples, im sure he has vine maple and maybe even ocean spray. I live in the kitsap area, bremerton, port orchard, silverdale, ect. im sure ill find it eventually i just havent been searching as hard as i could have. Anyway, his scotch broom is 4 inch diameter and about 5-7 ft for those pieces, its really amazing when its just left there for years.