Author Topic: Wheelie people (Read 4299 times)

Newindian · « **on:** September 22, 2012, 09:22:38 pm »

Whent to my local bow shop today looking to get a couple arrows with a proper spine for a Osage bow I have that's probably 34 inches long

.The first guy I ran into ( a known butt head) told me that it was immpossible for me to shoot off hand with out a glove, because the English used gloves on their long bows

. Then somebody els showed up, and when I said " in need arrows for this bow" he gave me a look akin to that as if I had ran into the store half naked, smacked him across the face and said " hib-ah- gumyhyo". Needless to say I went home arrow-less

. Think I'll stick to the compound while I'm their and save them the heart problems

youngbowyer · « **Reply #1 on:** September 22, 2012, 10:28:11 pm »

that happened to me when I was at my local shop looking to buy some carbon shafts for my recurve. The guy made me pull a little rubber bow to test my drawlength and tried to give me a lesson on form and how I shouldn't grip the handle with my whole hand but only with my palm

I left empty haned

iowabow · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2012, 09:17:07 am »

What to have fun start asking how an arrow works. Ask about point and spine wt. Most dont have a clue. I had to take my spine tester in and do the math for mtself. I left without arrows but they learned a lot.

beetlebailey1977 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 23, 2012, 01:19:52 pm »

I will admit....at most shops you will not get the help you need if you dont shoot a compound. Even then you will get some false help.

SA · « **Reply #4 on:** September 23, 2012, 02:11:45 pm »

''The first guy I ran into ( a known butt head) told me that it was immpossible for me to shoot off hand with out a glove, because the English used gloves on their long bows

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just tell them the bow you have is not an english longbow it's a na bow and indians didn't have gloves

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i got lucky when visiting a shop in ardmore, the guy working shot a glass recurve and knew alot about woodbows and even said a few regulars were bowyers(can't remember their names) they sold wheelbows but preferred traditional

one thing he said about wheelies was'' shoot fast,miss fast'' i thought that was pretty funny but also true.

i went to academy the other day and picked up a few arrows , they had all theres separated and marked according to weight range that might be something you can check out.

tattoo dave · « **Reply #5 on:** September 23, 2012, 08:34:01 pm »

I had a guy ask me if my long bow was 90#. He really thought that anything under that with a longbow wouldn't have enough speed to kill a deer. I did laugh in his face...couldn't help myself. Wheelie people suck.

Tattoo Dave

iowabow · « **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2012, 09:06:18 pm »

Things come from nature even if it is synthetic. Most people have a disconnected understanding of Nature. The sad part is they buy everything to hunt from a store (not from nature) then walk across rocks and streams and put their stands in trees they cant even name and call themselves outdoorsmen or woodsmen or nature lovers. It is as if you could go to the store and buy the knowledge in a brand. I lived next to state ground once and it was a funny site. But that is not the scary part folks.....these people are the ones that actually want and have an interest in nature Even if it is with a disconnect, the masses of people who dont know anything about nature other than from what are told to think ...that scares me. This is not meant to be political please dont read into it guys but that is the real big diconnect. I have a forest program and people tell me not to cut tress...this is a disconnect in a multi-levelled way.

JW_Halverson · « **Reply #7 on:** September 24, 2012, 11:00:14 pm »

Iowabow hit it on the head....they know nothing about the environment they hunt in other than the animal they intend to shoot. I have a friend, a primitive bow shooter, was forced to ask me once why I kept stepping around this one certain plant. I finally showed him the little burrs on this hounds tongue. He was surprised, "I always wondered where those burrs came from. I get 'em all the time." Same guy sent me pics of a bird he had never seen before, had to be a new species....black capped chickadee. *sigh*

The Fly · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2012, 09:28:55 am »

Probably about 75% or more of the people on this site started out as wheelie shooters. Some of us graduated to a so called primitive shooter using epoxy and plastic nocks?IMO plastic nocks ,carbon arrows and epoxy are in the same category as wheels. All my equipment is period correct and yes i have used stone tools to make my bows.

Pappy · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2012, 09:38:29 am »

Got no problem with wheel bow folks,just ant for me. By the way what Period Fly ?

Pappy

Josh B · « **Reply #10 on:** September 25, 2012, 10:37:44 am »

I don't have a problem with wheelie bow folks either. Come to think of it, I don't have a problem with most weapons used to take game if the user is proficient with it and the weapon is adequate for the task at hand. I have to wonder how much of the animosity towards modern equipment useage is genuine elitism and how much of it is because of resentment over someone not taking our own choice of equipment serious. When talking to someone in a pro shop, you have to remember that their livelihood is selling the latest greatest technology. They are gonna be pretty reluctant to talk about the beauties of doing it the hard way, especially if there are other customers within ear shot. Most of the derogatory statements made towards my primitive equipment are pretty quickly silenced with a smile and an abbreviated history lesson. Several converts have been made with a few arrows driving deep into targets while the uninitiated looked on. Everyone of us carry the responsibility of being good stewards of our beloved pastime . How we carryout that responsibility now will have multigenerational impact. I for one, strive to impart as positive of an impression of my passion as possible to others. How about you? Josh

Pappy · « **Reply #11 on:** September 25, 2012, 10:41:15 am »

Well said Josh.

Pappy

Stringman · « **Reply #12 on:** September 25, 2012, 10:47:03 am »

Nicely said, Josh! Thats the way I feel too. I used to hunt deer witha shotgun. Dont anymore, but Im ok if you do.

Scott

Rick Wallace · « **Reply #13 on:** September 25, 2012, 02:41:58 pm »

I cant convince any wheelie shooters I know to try and catch arrows out of my longbows,, Many of these guys are not hunters anyway,they just want to look "cool" and have whatever the huntin shows say they need.

JW_Halverson · « **Reply #14 on:** September 26, 2012, 10:44:13 pm »

Quote from: Rick Wallace on September 25, 2012, 02:41:58 pm

I cant convince any wheelie shooters I know to try and catch arrows out of my longbows,, Many of these guys are not hunters anyway,they just want to look "cool" and have whatever the huntin shows say they need.

It just seems that so many of the wheelbow crowd runs like sheep with a coyote on their heels to the local shop to buy the latest and greatest that they just saw on the HornPorn channel. You can no more buy better woodsmanship than you can buy better ethics. That being said, I do know more than a few wheelie boys that are in it for the ultra-super-hyper-extreme-turbo accuracy because they are spot shooters and they don't even hunt! Wonder what they think of me...cranking bows out and not being all that interested in shooting them or hunting all that much?

Primitive Archer