well both were intended to be side knotched but oops one corner snaped off this probably makes 20 to 25 points total that I have made. I am pretty happy with them its been almost a year since I made one till now so I cant complain. they are not the best looking points I ever made but csure are sharp and came in right about the correct weight for my shafts. Been looking at all the nice points posted and had to give her a go plus I am down to one point in my quiver now after poking that deer that got away the other day. Anyway hope yall like.