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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Ipe and Helmsman
« on: August 14, 2012, 10:03:08 pm »
I finally finsihed off an BBI I started a year ago. I have had issues sealing ipe in the past with Deft, so I avoided it this time. I used Helmsman rather. Well 9 days later its starting to harden up......finally. Just thought I would share what I learned.
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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 10:44:59 pm »
Is it from the oils in the wood?
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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 11:32:31 pm »
Did you try any shellac first? It worked pretty well on one of my bows, dried quickly, and the poly final coats stuck well and dried pretty fast after.
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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2012, 12:55:56 am »
Pearly let's see pics..  8)

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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2012, 01:15:17 am »
Shellac is the ticket. It sticks to anything and anything sticks to it. I keep a spray can of Bullseye shellac on my work bench all the time. Good stuff.
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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2012, 07:08:11 am »
I have had the same trouble with ipe and Tru Oil, if I ever do another ipe I will try shellac. :)
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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2012, 07:53:43 am »
I didnt use shellac, sounds liek I should have. Its hardening down finally, but i was getting nervous. If you have never had to strip a semi gooey bow.............dont! Its a nasty job.

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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2012, 08:23:49 am »
Been there done that and it is a mess. :( Glad it worked out,looking forward to seeing it.
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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2012, 09:34:44 am »
Will shellac seal over the oily carp skins I just put on a bow?  It's been about a week and the oil is still leaking out of them.  I'm afraid I won't ever be able to finish this one.

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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2012, 09:54:53 am »
I've only done one set of Carp skins,I washed them good with Dawn dishwashing
lequid before I started and they work out fine,not sure if your are already glued and leaking oil, does the glue you used seem to be holding ? Seem to me it wouldn't stick,sorry Pearl for the thread hijack.
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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2012, 09:58:56 am »
Oops, sorry PEARL, should have started a new post on this. In fact, I think I will.

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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2012, 10:20:19 am »
Hi jack away fella's. Im nowhere that sensitive!
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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2012, 11:04:46 am »
on the ipe....are you putting shellac first, then going over with something else (helmsman varnish etc.)  or jut using the shellac..... ?   Just curious.... got an ipe in progress  ... Thanks ::)

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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2012, 11:10:06 am »
On the hbi, I recently did. I put about 3 coats of shellac on with light sanding in between, then a couple of coats of quick drying satin poly. It dried pretty fast and looked pretty good. My pre-finish sanding has improved since then, though. I think the next one will look much better.
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Re: Ipe and Helmsman
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2012, 12:55:35 pm »
I recommend spray laquer (I use Minwax) for both ipe and boo.   Shellac dries also, but I find the laquer to be clearer.

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