I appreciate the responses and especially the ones that have told me about the first steps to take in tillering. It has been helpful. It is encouraging to know that I am not the only one that had a bad expierence in bow making. I didnt feel that it would turn out well from the initial mistake of gringing into the belly. I am kind of stick to it guy and I wanted to finish the process if for nothing else just to say it was completed. Along the way I made my first rawhide from last years whitetail, I was able to wrap the handle area with it, as well as, backing the bow, I fashioned my first attempt making tip overlays out of antler, and carved my first arrow rest out of a piece of antler. I, also, made a flemish string jig and fashioned my first flemish string. All in all it has been a wonderful expierence and I loved the challenge. Well, I was hoping to be able to use the bow in this hunting season but that dont look good. I received a commercial longbow last Christmas (PSE) and really need to get busy to find a good arrow for it. Lots to do as I have another bow profiled now...chuck