Joe,here in Ohio people started using isrealie carp for bait.they would loose a few or throw them off their hooks.i am now shooting some of them.they have a large hump on their heads and really big scales.they look alot different than common asian carp.i believe they are some form of mirror carp.Howard,i also have a turned reel for my selfbows.it is made of willow and is very beutiful.it was made by a guy on this site.after i used my new fangled reel,i can't see myself using anything else.zero drag on this set-up.i am going in the morning and will let you know how i do.the lake i will be fishing has carp 20 pounds and bigger.i shot one last weekend that got me hung up in the trees then tore off my arrow.i'll give a full report tommarrow.ttyl,Steve