hey Bear,here is the piece of osage that you gave me down at Pappy's place.i almost have it done.still tweeking it some and shooting it.shoots great so far.i know the tiller is not quite perfect,but it is shooting like a dream.it feels close to 60 pounds at 26 right now.i am going to shoot it alot more and see what happens.i like it how it is,so after i shoot it some i'll finish it out.thank you for the stave.i am going to call it Brother Bear.i'll get better pics when i'm done.hope you like it.