Thanks guys . I'm sure you may have guessed it already .I am a Cabinetmaker/ Furnituremaker by trade .I've been trying to post some pics for a while here but the format of all my pics wouldn't allow it. I'll have to remember that when taking pictures of future bows. And as far as shooting the Butler, I wasn't aware of a season on that. Find sport where you can and make sport where there isn't any.