Mullet you are right....the shafts are very nice and of good quality. I also found out we have a mutual friend. I hunt some in Georgia with Mitch Parks Youngbowyer you are also right, the 500 bundle of 4' 8-10mm is $75 + tax. But well worth the price. To top it off I found a huge supply of excellent quality cane in Georgia. Thanks again for all the info